Talk:Flat-Coated Retriever

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	It is requested that a photograph or photographs be included in this article to improve its quality, if possible. Preferred photos show the complete animal, head to tail. Additional photos should add information, such as a face-only shot or distinct coat color or texture variants. Please do not include restricted copyright or "fair use" images.
	Special request: A photo that is less blurry, and that has a more attractive background

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Flat coated retrievers are not specialist dry-land retrievers, they can't stay away from water!

[edit] Flatcoat kiss

Several times the sentence on flatcoat kisses has been removed. Any flatcoat owner will be familiar with the kiss even if they don't know it by that name. Every flatcoat I know, including my own two, do it. The phrase is commonly used by flatcoat owners in the UK. If you have a really strong objection to it being there then please discuss here rather than delete it again. --Cheesy Mike 09:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I concur about the behaviour from personal experience. It appears that the text is already back in the article now. -Deepraj | Talk 11:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I put the text back myself and nobody has removed it since. --Cheesy Mike 12:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

I am concerned about the recently added photo at the bottom of this page. While it is a nice picture of an untrimmed Flat Coat in the field, it does not have the "classic" conformation we have described in the article (i.e. it has a more pronounced stop and a shorter muzzle than is described there and the untrimmed ears give it more of a "spaniel" look). If we include a close up of a Flat Coat head (which can help to educate the public about the unique conformation of this breed, especially those characteristics that set it apart from the better known Goldens and Labs) wouldn't it be a good idea to have a more classic head shot and maybe include a full body picture of this dog to show the enthusiasm and field ability Flat-coats exhibit? I have mostly contributed to this article under the user name "Grnmtndogs" and have written a good deal of the article's content so I hope it will be understood that I am in no way being critical of this dog's photograph or of its suitability to this article, but merely hoping to illustrate with the photographic images we choose the same information we are giving in the text. Please let me know your thoughts. Fcrlover

I would certainly say both that the dog doesn't conform to show standards and that a photo of a dog who does would be ideal. Unfortunately, freely-licensed photos of Flat-coats are fairly rare, and the only other head-shot that Wiki currently has access to is this one,

Which doesn't show the conformation well simply because of the angle. For the time being I would be in favour of leaving the photo up but changing the caption to reflect on the dog's uncharacteristic (for the breed) conformation. If a better photo could be found I would certainly replace that image.

I just found these two images while looking around the other language wikis.

At first glance that dog appears to have decent conformation, and also seems more of a field-bred dog (simply an educated guess based on the less-profuse coat and long legs). Do you think these photos are better? --Pharaoh Hound (talk) (The Game) 12:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I think the head shot at the bottom of this page is much better. It disguises any features of head conformation that may not conform to the standard by being shot from the front and could just as easily be a dog with a correct head. Also, the trimmed ears add to the overall picture of head conformation that we have described in the text. Most especially, the happy and enthusiastic expression on the dog's face is absolutely typical of the "joie de vivre" that Flat-coats exhibit in the field or in any endeavor. Would it be possible to have this image instead? 72.92.146.249 01:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Fcrlover72.92.146.249 01:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Could someone who knows how replace the head shot image at the bottom of the Flat-coat article with the one at the bottom of this discussion page--it is SO much better. THANKS! 72.92.138.60 21:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)FCRlover72.92.138.60 21:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Done! --Cheesy Mike 22:22, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

THANKS!71.254.6.14 22:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)FCRlover71.254.6.14 22:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] my dog dezil

i pretty sure he is a flat coat but he has a beautiful white stripe on his chest all the pics u people have put on look identical to him does this mean he is not a flat coat retriever ???? sumone please let me know thanks from brandon and dezil —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.119.150 (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)