Talk:Fitzroy Football Club/Archive 1

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Present day

PMA says that the modern FFC is not the same legal entity as the original club, so I have changed the wording so that it doesn't state it is. It would be good to have a definitive source one way or the other. JPD (talk) 12:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

It is in fact, the same entity. The FFC Ltd is was put into administration in 1996 and came out in early 1998 I believe. Only the playing operations were merged with Brisbane, not the legal entity. This was confirmed by the Supreme Court!!

• The above decision in the Supreme Court referred to business entity - which is not the same as the whole club. As mentioned, the playing operations were absorbed by Brisbane. But the club as an on field entity - which is what the original entity was - no longer exists. Technically it is the same entity, but it is now a different sort of business completely. I think that needs to be taken into account. Curse of Fenric 05:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• I have also added the angst between the FFC and the AFL - which I can back up through experience on a forum elsewhere on the Internet as I came across one of these diehards, and was fed a rather biased line on the AFL's puported activities stopping them from doing anything positive to remain in the AFL. I tried to keep what I added within Wiki rules and as passive as I could and I hope it's OK. Curse of Fenric 05:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think experience on an internet forum really meets Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and it's really not our place to say "it won't go away". Do you think you could try to reword it and cite some reliable sources? JPD (talk) 08:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

This is the problem, JPD. I know the problem exists personally, but providing a verifiable source is impossible because everytime one appears it gets removed by either a court order from the Fitzroy board, or by the AFL. As far as rewording it goes - I'm going to need some advice (detailed and specific that is) as to what's acceptable and what's not. There is a book called "The Death of Fitzroy" but I am of the view that it's not reliable because it is biased against the AFL. I guess you could say it's an example of the problem I'm canvassing here. I'm going into some details because of the Internet forum experience but getting the results of that in a verifiable form isn't going to be easy. Curse of Fenric 10:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)