Talk:Finnish military ranks

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[edit] Private ranks

An anonymous IP user has made a couple of edits claiming that "combat medic" Finnish: lääkintämies is a rank. This is not the case. Medic is a training branch, important as such, but the privates with such training carry the private rank of their combat arm. For example, an artillery medic is a gunner, a Border Guard medic, a frontier jaeger, a medic in Finnish Air Force, an airman. As a proof, you may read the article 40 of the General Regulations (Finnish: Yleinen palvelusohjesääntö:

Varusmiehestä käytetään palvelusaikansa alussa nimitystä alokas. Joukko-osaston komentaja nimittää alokkaat sotamiehiksi tai matruuseiksi peruskoulutuskaudella. Sotamiehestä voidaan käyttää seuraavia puolustushaara- tai aselajikohtaista sotilasarvoja:

• jääkäri jalkaväessä ja rannikkojoukoissa
• tykkimies tykistössä ja rannikkojoukoissa
• pioneeri pioneerijoukoissa ja rannikkojoukoissa
• viestimies viestijoukoissa ja rannikkojoukoissa
• autosotamies autojoukoissa sekä
• lentosotamies ilmavoimissa.

Edellä lueteltujen arvojen asemasta voidaan käyttää esimerkiksi seuraavia joukkokohtaista sotilasarvoja: rakuuna, ratsumies, kaartinjääkäri, panssarimies, panssarijääkäri, rannikkojääkäri ja suojelumies.

This translates as:

At the start of his training, conscript is called Recruit (alokas). The commanding officer of the brigade-level unit promotes the Recruits to Privates (sotamies) or Seamen (matruusi). Privates may be called with the following service- or branch-specific ranks:

• Jaeger (jääkäri) in infanrty and coastal troops
• Gunner (tykkimies) in artillery and coastal troops
• Engineer (pioneeri) in engineer and coastal troops
• Signalist (viestimies) in signal and coastal troops
• Driver (autosotamies) in transport troop and
• Airman (lentosotamies) in Finnish Airforce

In addition to aforementioned ranks a unit-specific rank may be used, e.g. the following: Dragoon (rakuuna), Cavalryman (ratsumies), Guard Jaeger (kaartinjääkäri), Armourman (panssarijääkäri), Armour Jaeger (panssarijääkäri), Coastal Jaeger (rannikkojääkäri) and NBC protection man (suojelumies).

So, as you see, the "combat medic" is not listed as a rank. --MPorciusCato (talk) 20:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)