Talk:Ferdinand VII of Spain
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this article needs a short summary at the top
also, the claim that Manuel Godoy was Queen Maria Luisa's lover is unsubstantiated. My recent reading in general overviews of the period suggests that this was actually a myth propagated by the opponents of Charles IV and Manuel Godoy. It would be helpful if this was phrased more objectively.
[edit] Ancestor infobox
Cosmos666 has added a box which shows Alfonso's four grandparents and eight great-grandparents. This is certainly not usual for an encylopedia article (indeed, often not for a full-length book about the subject). I suggest removal. If not, what are the limits to this? Noel S McFerran 04:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Biased?
Obviously Ferdinand VII was not a pleasant person (that's quite an understatement) and I certainly don't intend to defend him. But even when describing the most despicable figures, Wikipedia has a NPOV policy which I'm inclined to think the current state of the article violates:
- “Ferdinand betrayed his associates and grovelled to his parents.” → what kind of encyclopedia uses words like “grovel”?
- “He changed his ministers every few months, whimsical and ferocious by turns. The other autocratic powers of the Quintuple Alliance […] watched his proceedings with disgust and alarm.” → reference needed, at least!
- “His habits of life were telling on him. He became torpid, bloated and horrible to look at.” → uhmmmm, hello?
- “It had been a frequent saying with the more zealous royalists of Spain that a King must be wiser than his ministers for he was placed on the throne and directed by God. Since the reign of Ferdinand VII no one has maintained this unqualified version of the great doctrine of divine right.”
etc. I suppose most or all of this is taken from the 1911 Britannica, but, please!, this needs to be reworded at least. So I'm adding POV-check at the top. --Gro-Tsen (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
