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There are many female nazi who were never in war e.g. Eva Braun and Magda Goebbels. Categorizing these women as in war would be similar to have the wife of Stalin included in the category women in war. Andries 20:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, you are right, my apologies. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 01:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Definition: criteria for inclusion

I also find the description of the category open for debate "Females related to the Nazi Hierarchy: either directly or indirectly.", so that means that even the female cook of Hitler or his secretary, like Traudl Junge can be listed here though the latter was never a member of the NSDAP and not interested in politics. Andries 00:01, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed warning

I gave the category a disputed warning because a lot of biographies do not mention whether the women were members of the Nazi party, only overseers at concentration camps. I do not know whether you had to be a member to work in a concentration camp. I think that all members of the SS, like the Waffen SS or Theodor Eicke's 3rd SS Division Totenkopf that provided a lot of the the male concentration camp personell can be considered Nazis, because the organization was part of the Nazi party. Andries 11:15, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The article Aufseherin states that only twenty female overseers were members of the SS or of the affiliated SS-gefolge. Andries 11:30, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
It's a sexist category, in my opinion. GilliamJF 02:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Nazism itself was sexist so women who had a role in it often did become "something apart" in a sense. Their relation to the party and what they were allowed to do was different than men. It seems valid to treat them as a separate entity as they were made into a separate entity by the misogynist hyper-masculinism of the regime.--T. Anthony 19:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Why women?

I don't understand why we are separating the women from the men. If we do, should we change category:Nazis to category:Male Nazis? We don't separate female Communists or female Republicans. -Will Beback 22:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Despite what I said I don't think this category is quite right. Women in Nazism were in an unusual place, but I'm not sure this is dealing with that in the right way. If we create an article on the National Socialist Women's Organization, and similar Nazi women's groups, we could maybe make a category of its female members like Gertrud Scholtz-Klink or something.--T. Anthony 00:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Nazi

By 1943 the Nazi party was the only party in Germany. I'm pretty sure all German citizens were technically "Nazi"s, Oskar Schindler included, because not joining made them look suspicious or made them ineligible for benefits. Real Nazis had an elite membership, signified by a gold wreath outside the round swastika pin. Anynobody 08:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Of the entire list, these women were not guards or overseers in Nazi camps:

Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche Eva Braun Gudrun Burwitz Magda Goebbels Ilse Koch Constanze Manziarly Unity Mitford Hanna Reitsch Leni Riefenstahl Jutta Rüdiger Vera Salvequart Gertrud Scholtz-Klink Johanna Wolf

Vera Salvequart may be the only exception, if the article is correct she was pressed into service after being arrested. The active partcipation in the murders makes me think she fits though. Unity Mitford was more of a Nazi wannabe, but I think she fits. Otherwise they all worked in relatively high positions for the Nazi party.

Anyone who joined up to be a guard at a concentration or death camp was definitely a Nazi. Anynobody 02:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)