Talk:Federal Germans

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[edit] Inclusion in Germanic peoples

This article is included in the category Germanic peoples along with other modern national groups (Danes, Swedes, English, Dutch), although no source is given for the claims. I nominated the category for deletion - see its entry here - because it includes modern groups under a historical term (Roman period to mediaeval). The category is being used for a political agenda, to promote the idea that ethnic groups and nations in north-west Europe are "Germanic". That claim is typically associated with neo-nazi groups, for the association of the term Germanic peoples with Nazism, see Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Lebensraum, and for instance Hitler salute.

In this case, the category clearly contradicts the meaning of the term, since Bundesdeutsche is explicitly not an ethnic term. I also disputed the accuracy because of this contradication. Paul111 21:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Really Paul111. One discussion on one page will suffice.Rex 21:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like to add that the term "Bundesdeutsche" has NOT been developed in order to differenciate ethnic germans and german citizens, NO, the word "Bund" in general has been employed after WW2 (Bundestag, Bundesrat, Bundesverfassungsgericht = federal court of law) because people wanted to have a distance towards nationalism in general. And I mean ETHNIC GERMAN people. Besides that, I have never heard anyone using the term Federal citizen in order to include all non-ethnic german citizen and German to exclude them. This is absurd. Consequently, the reason of the use of this term lies not in the desire to distinguish ethnic germans and german citizen... Sincerely, --SilverWiki 23:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I could not find a source for that, but i think it is kind of obvious, that the term gained so much use, due to the necessarity of distinguishing West and East Germany. The terms Germany and German could always refer to two distinct states. When you talked about the German embassy, no one knew which one you were talking about. And since reunification you don`t here taht term that often anymore, just because it is not necessary anymore, if you talk about the German embassy today there is no confusion anymore.... Jonas78 16:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)