Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/a-ha discography

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[edit] a-ha discography

I have worked on this discography for quite a while now. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 19:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose, for now. (PS I removed the Supprt/Uppose/Comments subheaders since they're not typically used in most FLC's for various reasons, hope you don't mind). The list is definately a good start, but I do see a number of problems that need to be addressed before I can support it's nomination. This is not an exhaustive list, but it should be a good start.

Please don't edit/move other people's comments, it's considered rude.
Resolved stuff from Drewcifer
  • Since there's so many certifications, and so many citations to go along with them, the citations should be next to each certification rather then in the column header.
  • "Chart positions" isn't specific enough, it needs to be something like "Peak chart positions".(DONE)
  • The C in Chart shouldn't be capitalized. Drewcifer (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Similar columns between tables should ideally kept a consistent width (ie the "Title" and "Certification" columns).
  • Usually catalog numbers aren't given their own line. Instead, try putting them after the label. Also, they need a "#" and (if applicable) a acronym of some sort describing the label. For instance, most Drag City releases aren't just #54, they're DCR #54. Also, to differentiate it from the label, try putting it in small font.(DONE)
  • They still need a #, and (this is optional) consider the small font thing. Drewcifer (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • And I second Tenacious D Fan's comment that the chart columns need to be reorded a bit. Take a look at at MOS:DISCOG for more of an explanation.(DONE) Drewcifer (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • The singles still need to be rearranged.
  • Something is wrong with citation #15.
  • Column headers for charts should be abbreviated. Currently "Euro Top 100" takes up alot of space. Howabout just EU, with a link to Eurochart Hot 100 Singles? Drewcifer (talk) 19:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Resolved stuff from Gary King

Oppose Here are my reasons:

  • Sales figures do not come from a reliable source. Your EP sales don't even have a source. These figures are not essential anyway. How is aha-fr.com reliable?
  • Your charts aren't ordered properly. The charts should be in the order of home chart (if applicable) then the rest of the charts in alphabetical order. (DONE)
  • Did any of the EPs chart? If not, please clarify.(DONE)
  • Where are the catalog numbers?(DONE)
  • Catalog numbers are the record companies 'bar code'. Here are cat numbers from a-ha's first album [1] Look at Nirvana discography for Bleach "Label: Sub Pop (SP-34)"
  • The information is not cited (this is US band so the self-referential argument isn't valid). Some directors are missing.(DONE) Tenacious D Fan (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Are there any unique a-ha songs that do not feature on a-ha albums/singles?(NO)
  • Why does "The Swing Of Things / The Demo Tapes" not have a year?(DONE)
  • Is this an album, or a book? (DONE)
  • You have removed it completely. That's not what I had in mind. You have it underneath the album title, when perhaps it should be under its own heading for books.(DONE)
  • "(approximately sixteen times the entire Norwegian population)" is not necessary.(DONE)
  • "After a well-received performance at the Nobel Peace Prize Concert" cite needed.(DONE)
  • The cite does not substantiate "well-received".
  • The second para needs more. You should expand on individual album performances.
  • "83 million albums and singles sold" not cited.(DONE)
  • What is this article about? Your intro does not make it clear.(DONE)
  • "cassette (CS)" is not necessary. Either "cassette" or "CS" should be used. Not together.(DONE)
  • "Train Of Though" - Is this correct? (YES)
  • The Video albums link on the infobox does not work.
How do you fix that --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 08:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
  • "Brasil Sales: 642,000" Remove all sales figures unless they are reliably sourced. (DONE)
  • ""The Sun Always Shines On T.V. a-ha Live"" Is that the song name?(DONE)

There are a lot of issues that need dealt with. The para isn't good enough. I think you have done the charts well however. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 11:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment It strikes me the lead of this list is almost identical to the lead of the band's article. This is a featured list candidate we're talking about, copy-pasting is far from recommended. Also, why are we told three times the band has sold over 80 million copies? You should also add more references to reliable sources to the lead.(DONE) Baldrick90 (talk) 19:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Oppose Comment The claim 89 million sold seems a little suspicious, and more reliable source will be needed to verify that figure. I find it hard to believe that they sold more records than Nirvana. indopug (talk) 15:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

First Nirvana sucks and second it sais it on their official homepage. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Their official homepage is not a reliable source, it is a self-published source that can only be used for completely uncontroversial claims. I'll be changing to oppose in light of the rather suspicious claim this article makes. indopug (talk) 16:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
This ain't a self-published source [3]. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 16:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
That's a forum. Anybody could have posted that. Read WP:RS. indopug (talk) 18:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
This is from the BBC so BBC.com. It sais there that they have sold 83 million copies. --Alive Would? Sun (talk) 19:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Uh, that is an exact reprint of the Wikipedia article. indopug (talk) 19:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Indopug. It's wikiality. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 20:35, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment Please add language tags to the references, where applicable. Baldrick90 (talk) 20:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)