Talk:Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (film)

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[edit] Unreferenced

This whole article has all stuff copy/pasted directly from IMDB. Which is well known for not being acurate or having any references for its information. I would like to see if the article could be cleaned up before I erase half of it. Aspensti 21:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I deleted the trivia items taken directly from IMDB. I don't know if it would be legally permissible to use them, and I think it's just bad form either way. - furrykef (Talk at me) 15:31, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added a ton of references to info contained in the Production section. --J.D. 15:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

In "Differences from the Novel," the line about the coconut smashing is a direct copy from IMDB. Khartma1 4:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soundtrack section deleted

I deleted the soundtrack section as excessive unencyclopedic information. - furrykef (Talk at me) 15:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] removal of trivia.

I removed this item from the trivia section since it's unimportant, but it's amusing: Near end of this film, Duke takes too much "andrenichrome" and has a nasty experience. Andrenichrome was a substance that Hunter S. Thompson made up for the book when he originally wrote it, and was kept in the script by Terry Gilliam. The name itself wasn't new - Adrenochrome is an oxidation product of adrenaline, while Adrenochrome semicarbazone, also known as carbazochrome, is used as a medicinal drug to reduce capillary bleeding - however, neither compound is a hallucinogenic drug as portrayed in the book/film. After showing a rough cut of the film to a test audience, Gilliam was approached by a group of young men, one of which complimented him on the film in general, but said that his favorite scene was the andrenichrome scene. He said that he had used the drug and that Gilliam had captured the effects perfectly. Gilliam didn't have the heart to tell the kid that it was made up, and went along with his story. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 06:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

in the scene in the elevator, I saw clearly that the character's baldness was fake. did anyone noticed that? if confirmed, it could be put in trivia or something

I don't think the removal of trivia was appropriate, as most pages relating to movies, notable persons, etc. have a trivia section. Why is this subject any different? --FiftyOneWicked 05:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles. This article is held to the same standard as all other Wikipedia articles. - Zepheus <ゼィフィアス> 18:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
To this end, I've removed the Trivia section and placed it here until someone can integrate it into various sections in the article. --J.D. 21:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

 Trivia sections are discouraged under Wikipedia guidelines.
The article could be improved by integrating relevant items and removing inappropriate ones.
  • The T-shirt that the hitchhiker (Tobey Maguire) wears has a Ralph Steadman picture on it. Ralph Steadman did the original illustrations for the book and the typeface of the credits is based on his handwriting. In the film the shirt appears to have a picture of a likeness of Mickey Mouse in an American flag but in the book the Mickey Mouse type character is wearing a T-shirt with a swastika on it.
  • When Raoul Duke is calling his attorney about a new assignment, there is a poster on the back wall of Dr. Gonzo's office. It has a two-thumbed fist clutching a peyote button inside a sheriff's star. This is actually a political poster from Hunter S. Thompson's campaign for sheriff of Aspen. He ran on the Freak Power party ticket, a political party he made up himself.
  • Gary Busey (Highway Patrolman) improvised the "Give me a kiss" line. The producers and Hunter S. Thompson were initially horrified by it, but Terry Gilliam thought it was funny, and left it in the final cut. Thompson said that after a few more viewings, he found the line quite funny.
  • Raoul Duke's typewriter has the words "OFF THE PIGS" written on the top.
  • According to Johnny Depp, the gorilla statue outside the Bazooko Circus, now "lives" in his front yard.
  • Near the beginning of the movie, while Dr. Gonzo and Raoul are driving down the highway, there is an accident involving many cars. There is an ambulance that is about to put a person that is covered with a white sheet in it. If you look on the white sheet, there is a smiley face in blood on it.
  • Benicio del Toro improvised the part in the beginning in the car when he licked the spilled cocaine off the suitcase.
  • During the scene in which Duke is tripping on adrenochrome, he mutters, "La llama es un quadrupedo." This is a quote from a sketch in "Monty Python's Flying Circus".
  • In the trailer for the movie, when Benicio fires the gun in the car, it actually goes off instead of just clicking.
  • In a scene cut from the movie, Duke and Gonzo tell a DA from Atlanta about a rather gruesome incident which happened at a McDonalds. In the final cut, during check-in scene at the Mint Hotel, a man in a cowboy hat tells the exact same story to someone over a payphone.
  • According to Terry Gilliam's commentary on the Criterion Collection DVD, at the beginning of the movie when they stop on the side of the road after Duke starts seeing bats and wants Gonzo to drive, you can see a strange looking cactus in the background. It was designed by Ralph Steadman and appears many times in the background of the movie in various scenes. Gilliam complained of having to lug it around wherever they went.
  • The scene in which Raoul Duke calls his attorney from Baker is partially filmed backwards. In the background smoke can be seen coming back into a fire, and Duke bangs in reverse on the side of the phone booth.
  • When Duke is gambling (he plays a round of roulette) there are two actual Hunter S. Thompson IDs in his wallet.
  • Laraine Newman (the Frog-Eyed Woman) and Harry Dean Stanton (the Judge) both appeared on the 1996 Spoken Word Adaptation CD of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Stanton was the narrator while Newman played several small roles.

[edit] Dubious amounts of crime

Thompson changed Zeta Acosta's ethnic identity to "Samoan" to deflect suspicion from Zeta Acosta, who was in some trouble with the L.A. Legal Bar, since he was a lawyer, and committing dubious amounts of crime.

I'd have thought any crime at all would be a dubious amount... what is this trying to say? - furrykef (Talk at me) 18:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hunter cameo

"Thompson also has a brief cameo in the film while Duke has a flashback to a San Francisco music club, The Matrix, where Thompson can be seen sitting at a table as Depp walks by narrating his inner monologue, "There I was ... Mother of God! There I am! Holy fuck!". This is actually Johnny dressed up as Thompson, the conversation between Depp and Thompson in the film's special edition actors commentary reveals this."

i'm taking that last part out. it's very dubious since the documentary Breakfast With Hunter shows the filming of this scene with hunter playing the part. also it really looks like him. 212.139.125.69 01:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Plot

I changed this is a highly fictionalised account of Thompson and attorney Oscar Zeta Acosta's actual trip to Las Vegas around the same time period. This is contracticed many times through out the article. In one instance, under the Pre production sub heading it says: Depp remembers, "He saved it all. Not only is [the book] true, but there's more. And it was worse.

Later on under the sub heading Reaction, it says: Apparently it all came flooding back to him, he was reliving the whole trip! He was yelling out and jumping on his seat like it was a rollercoaster, ducking and diving, shouting 'SHIT! LOOK OUT! GODDAM BATS!' That was fantastic – if he thought we'd captured it, then we must have done it. Although it is a far fetched story, it is not highly fictionalised and regardless, it can't say it is if there are statements throughout the rest of the article from direct sources that are saying it is real. Soulnebula 03:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Also the plot needs to be re-written anyway, as it is messy and it does not give a very good description or analyses of the plot. I may come back and do this another time if somebody else doesn't. Soulnebula 03:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comedy Status

I put this task back in under the comedy project, because it has to be a comedy. it isn't a thriller,an action movie, a drama. It also makes people laugh. Therefore, it has to be a comedy Soulnebula 00:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

It is also a true story, but I think due to the fact that it does make people laugh, it deserves to be under the heading of comedy. Soulnebula 01:29, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] F&L userbox

This user knows that we can't stop here - this is bat country.




use {{User:Xenocidic/Loathing}} to add this to your userpage (who's using it?)

Enjoy, xenocidic (talk) 15:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main character's name

In the highway scene at the beginnig, Dr. Gonzo says "Well are you for this? Checking into a hotel under a false name?" That leads me to the thought that Depp actually plays H.S. Thompson, not Raoul Duke. --Стайко (talk) 04:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: Of course, that also casts a suspicion if Dr. Gonzo is the real name of the second main character.--Стайко (talk) 04:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

In real life, Thompson used the Raoul Duke byline so that he would not hurt his chances getting press credentials to follow the election in 1972.--J.D. (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC)