Talk:Fascist symbolism
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[edit] Removal of Mercury Dime image
I've removed the image of the US "Mercury" dime from this page, as it is more applicable on the fasces page where a listing of modern usages of the symbol appears. Having the image here, on a page entitled fascist symbolism, insinuates that the US government may be or has previously been something of a fascist government, which is not the case even despite how commonly the term is tossed around whenever someone finds themselves disagreeing with someone else. :bloodofox: 04:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
- <sarcasm>Yeah, the US would NEVER support fascism. My goodness.</sarcasm> Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 11:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Merge request
National Socialism, while considerably different than the Italian fascist movement that influenced it, is generally considered heavily fascist-influenced. I've requested that the Nazi symbolism page be merged with this article since it contains less information and I think the change would allow a more extensive and broad overview of the subject. Many symbols tend to overlap within various fascist-influenced and fascist movements. At the moment, both entries contain a lot of duplicate information when it's really not necessary. :bloodofox: 10:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I absolutely disagree. Fascism and Nazism may be very similar, and often overlap, yes. However, the connotations of being a National Socialist or right wing extremist of one form or another does NOT carry the same connotations as being a Nazi or Neo-Nazi.
Obviously, everyone knows about the holocaust and what Nazism represents, but it would be a folly to incorporate italian or other forms of national socialism into the "typically germanic" movement of the Nazis of the 40's.
There is enough fascist non-Nazi symbolism to carry an article along without the influence of a seperate movement that might confuse people... I would say it would be better for 2 articles to remain seperate while containing similar information, rather than combining 2 things that do not equal each other...
That might be like equalling stalinism with scandinavian socialism... see what i'm getting at?O'Donnell 13:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I have to totally disagree as well for the same reasons. Since the only comments regarding the merge on both articles have been in opposition I'm removing the merge tags from both articles. - DNewhall 16:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mistake?
Roman influenced? Shouldn`t that reed: influenced by italian fascism I mean the Romans played not a role in th nazi worldview.--Tresckow 01:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Third Reich use
Sir, I guess you never studied history of Fascism or Italian Constitutional Law in your University. You should remove the "Third Reich use", "Neo-Nazi use", "Relation to Neopaganism" chapters, which are about National-Socialism, not Italian Fascism. Honestly, the article is rather poor and spread disinformation. Or you are one of those guys described by George Orwell who utilize the Italian term Fascismo to mean "farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek etc."? If you write an article on Fascist symbolism, you must limit your research to the true Fascismo. Jack 01:00, 14 Feb 2007 2006 (UTC)
[edit] US Usage
I deleated the entry into this article because it is one of the most biased things I've seen on wikipedia. The use of fasces in the US government long pre-dates fascism and are symolic of the orignal Roman use not Italian fascism, and therefor has no place in this article. In addition there is already a long discusion on the use of fasces by the US, and other, governments on the fasces article. LCpl (talk) 01:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
