Talk:Farmers' market

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Added the POV-Check template because several statements made in the article appear to be presenting opinions as fact. I would appreciate if someone else would take a look at things to help determine if NPOV is being maintained here. Specifically:

" Locally-grown produce does not travel thousands of miles to get to your table; this saves fossil fuels, allows farmers to pick produce at the peak of flavor, and more nutrients are preserved in fresh food."

"Farmers' markets help farmers stay in business. Wholesale prices farmers get for their produce are very low, often near the cost of production. Farmers who sell direct to the public without going through a middle man get a better price for their produce. When farmers get paid more for their products, by selling directly to the public, their farms are less likely to be developed into houses and malls. Preserving farmland is important for the health of the environment and water supply. Sustainably-managed farms conserve soil and clean water in our communities, and provide a habitat for wildlife." -pmppk


Statement one: thats a fact, cant argue.

Statement two: sounds NPOV to me

Nessuno834 03:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I would agree that the first statement is fact while the second could use some rewriting to become less biased and still maintain the author's original intent.--Nleamy 15:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the second statement sounds a bit biased. I also noticed that this paragraphs appears biased:

"Farmers' markets often feature produce that is grown naturally or organically, meats that are raised humanely on pasture, handmade farmstead cheeses, eggs and poultry from free-range fowl, as well as heirloom produce and heritage breeds of meat and fowl."

While that is certainly true, a statement should be added to note that farmers markets also feature traditional, conventionally grown produce which is often a mainstay for many consumers. Dandeelion13 14:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Canned food can sometimes be fresher than fresh food at the grocery store, due to the fact it is canned almost immediately after harvesting. Would fresh food at the farmers market be less or more healthy, nutrient-wise, than canned food? P.S. Has anyone ever been to a farmers market, inquired as to whether they would lower a price for an item, and they were rude and took it personally? - MSTCrow 01:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the POV-check template. The article has been revised. For example, the statement "Farmers' markets help farmers stay in business" has been replaces with "Farmers' markets advocates believe the markets help farmers stay in business...". There no longer any reason to question the neutrality of the article. APB-CMX 15:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Individual Farmers' Markets

Please add individual farmers' markets to List of farmers' markets instead of to the See Also section of this page. There's no reason for list duplication. Charles (Kznf) 14:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

David Shankbone just removed a perfectly good photo saying that we already have enough photos from the United States. His photo, however, remains at the top of the page, and his photo is from the United States. I don't see any good reasons to remove the photo. - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 18:36, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No, you are wrong: the Tibet photo was moved to the top of the page, which is *not* mine, and yours was prominently on the left side in the text (did you look before you reverted?) But could you explain why your off-color photo, half comprised of asphalt, should be at the top as opposed to the Tibet or any of the other photos? Curious as to your reasoning. --David Shankbone 00:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Just for clarity *Shankbone* made this edit putting Terrier's picture on the left, this edit shifting the Tibet photo to the top, and culminating in the one cited. Terrier's original edit was this. I still think the one up is better, but let's avoid misleading diffs. Uwmad (talk) 00:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm just passing through and thought you might want some outside comment. This page, it seems, is loaded with pictures. Which is good because farmers markets are meant to be diverse. But I would propose making a photo gallery that has an assortment of pictures which highlight the geographical diversity (see, for example, Claude Monet). This should be done within reason, of course, since there's no need for 20 or 30 pictures, but it would definitely reduce the clutter. I also think Shankbone's picture is better and should remain the lead. Uwmad (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and did it. Let me know if there are any major objections. I personally think it looks much better and is more conducive to people adding photos. Let me clarify the reasons I think Shankbone's picture is better as the lead: 1) the color balance is better (major issue); 2) there's more green in the picture, looks more natural; 3) it looks more rugged; and 4) the "vegetables" sign is a nice touch. Basically it looks like a farmers market should, in my mind at least. Uwmad (talk) 01:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)