Talk:Fancher–Baker party
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[edit] Mitchell Family?
On December 31, 1857, WM C.Mitchell (I believe a State Senator from Carrol County) sent a letter to AR US Senator Wm. K. Sabestian, Chairman of Indian Affairs. In the letter he says two of his sons were killed. His son,Charles, had an infant son and that the Mormons took 15 children to San Bernadino. Is that the Mitchell infant on the list? see message of the President. December 31, 1857. http://www.archive.org/details/messageofpreside00unitrich Tinosa 14:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
- See numberr 48-52 in murdered at mountain meadows section. The infant is believed to have been killed accidentally during the massacre (the child never made it to "San Bernadino" (sic - ie santa clara, cedar city), however, at least one account I read said that the child died in Wyoming territory. It seems, if I remember right, that tradition says that this infant was being hidden by one of his parents who was shot and killed. The account was brought up during the trial of John D. Lee, as one of the things he protested the militia leaders about during the killings. However, although the infant shot and the mitchell child are often tied together, there is no evidence that the two are the same. i believe the Jones family says that it was an unknown daughter recently born, and the trial account leads the readers to believe that the child was very recentnly born, but it is imposible to determne for sure. Here is the list of mitchells who were on the train - all killed (incidentally, I've fixed the footnote to read properly):
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- Mitchell, Charles R., 25
- Mitchell, Infant (possible)[4]
- Mitchell, Joel D., 23
- Mitchell, John,
- Mitchell, Sarah C. Baker, 21
- -Visorstuff 22:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The 1850 Census and the MMM Casualties
Except for the smallest children, and the exceptions to be mentioned below, all the victims of the violence at Mountain Meadow can be found in the 1850 census. Jurisdictions with a good many of the family groups include: Mulberry Twp, Johnson County, Arkansas; Spadra Twp, Johnson County, Arkansas; Carrollton Twp, Carroll County, Arkansas; Crooked Creek Twp, Carroll County, Arkansas; and an unnamed twp in Marion County, Arkansas. Individuals are found in Missouri (including the Huff family), Tennessee, and California (the Fanchers, on one of their several trips across the country).
The First Nations individuals of the future Utah Territory were not enumerated in 1850, and this post will not be concerned with the LDS families.
Missing from the enumerations are:
Vincent Valentine, supposed aged 21. No such person appears in the United States on a nationwide search. As this is also a popular character in a role-playing fantasy game, he may have been included on the casualty list as a spoof. A source is needed for his inclusion in the wagon trains.
The family of Joshua Miller, Matilda Cameron Miller, and James William Miller should be residing in or near Johnson County, Arkansas in 1850, but they seem to have been missed in the enumeration and may at that time have been en route for Missouri. Also missing is the Nancy Cameron born in 1845, a probable relation of Matilda Cameron Miller and her guardian William Cameron (supposed niece).
Annis Arnold [maiden name] and her husband, name unknown, who were supposed to have joined the Fancher-Baker train by their relatives, are also not found. Annis was the daughter of John and Rebecca Arnold and was born about 1805. They apparently left Shelby, Macomb, Michigan in the spring of 1857 bound for California and were never heard from again. While many things happened to people on the overland trails, apparently the family always believed from some evidence that they were at Mountain Meadow in September 1857 by accident. This was felt strongly enough that it was posted on RootsWeb. A source is needed for their inclusion in the wagon trains.
Genehisthome 05:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
