Talk:Expressionism
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--all art is expressionist. all art projects a subjective view of the world, at the very least as the artist necessarily experiences the world subjectively
the article should be changed therefore :)
The last paragraph of this article needs some serious clean-up, and the article as a whole could use some stylistic editing. I'll get around to it eventually, but if anybody else wants to give it a go they should feel free. Junjk 13:47, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Modernism template
I've added a template feel free to add new articles to it. Stirling Newberry 00:33, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC) thats minimum if there like sandles wu tang wu tang wu tang
[edit] Kandinsky ?
Why is this article is illustrated with "On White II" by Kandinsky?
Isn't that painting better considered a pure abstraction -- or an arrangement of geometric shapes-- rather than exhibiting a "tendency of an artist to distort reality for emotional effect" ?
Can anyone tell us which piece of reality was being distorted ? The title ( "On White II" )would suggest that if the painting is supposed to refer to some thing real, that thing is itself as an arrangement of colored shapes on a white background.
Even the Wikipedia entry for Kandinsky does not mention expressionism except as among the relevant categories listed at the very end.
Can't we put "The Scream" -- or something else like it -- at the beginning of this page ?
Mountshang 00:30, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- The scream here sounds good to me, its usually associated with expressionism. just did it. Kandinsky's should probably be removed. Some images of Max Beckmann's or other German expressionists would probably be a good idea. If youre looking for images for this article, theres several hundred in the expressionist category on wikimedia commons [1] Cfitzart 03:10, 1
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- Thanks -- unless someone else feels strongly about it, both the Kandinsky and the Franz ought to be removed from a page about Expressionsim -- or --- we might change the definition so it does not include "distorting reality". If that were left out -- then we could divide expressionism into two parts: figurative and abstract.
Meanwhile -- sculpture should be added to the list of expressionisms -- though I don't yet know of pictures that are in the public domain.
Mountshang 22:20, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] images
Shouldn't the photos be on the right, coding isn't correct. anyone know how to do it? Artybrad 03:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for reporting that. I can't make it work without exactly the parameters I used to set it up, so I just rolled it back and will forget about the fancy stacking box for now. --sparkitTALK 03:55, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Hi, I havent got time to do it myself, but go to WP:BUNCH and copy and paste example 2, replacing with the images here. LordHarris 05:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
-- yo for some reason, this article won't print, at least into a PDF file. Something is wrong with this article that causes the browser to freeze. Please fix! Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.211.177.88 (talk) 15:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ammending Birth of Tragedy section
I've just taken a shot at rewording the Birth of Tragedy section. It was like this:
- In The Birth of Tragedy Nietzsche presented his theory of the ancient dualism between two types of aesthetic experience, namely the Apollonian and the Dionysian; a dualism between a world of the mind, of order, of regularity and polishedness and a world of intoxication and chaos. The Apollonian represented the rationally conceived ideal, whereas the Dionysian represented artistic conception proper, originating from man's subconscious. The analogy with the world of the Greek gods typifies the relationship between these extremes: two godsons, incompatible and yet inseparable. According to Nietzsche, both elements are present in any work of art. The basic characteristics of expressionism are Dionysian: bold colors, distorted forms, two-dimensional, without perspective, and based on feelings (the child) rather than rational thought (the adult).
There are obvious problems here; it confuses N's argument. The article was wanting to utilize his opposition between Dionysian and Reason, but this is Dionysos vs. Socrates, which he develops towards the end of the book, not Dionysos vs. Apollo. Apollo was the god of Dreams; the Oracle at Delphi sat astride intoxicating vapours! Not Reason, but Form, Identity, Tranquility. In pop culture terms, Apollo is marijuana and Dionysos is ecstasy (though not really, of course). Neither are rational. Tragedy is the union of these two principles; it's Euripides that introduces realism and Socrates that, in N's opinion, destroys tragedy. DionysosProteus 16:31, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Helli —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.87.26 (talk) 05:18, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
