Talk:Exile on Main St.
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[edit] this article rates a "B" on the quality scale?I'm wondering how that is possible with barely any citations (and one of the two references an internet chat thread). Buster 17:55, 9 June 2007 (UTC) took out amyl nitrate from the contributing artists - regardless how much it may have helped the band finish the album, a drug can't be an artist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.52.178 (talk) 17:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC) Article requirements: |
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Set Album to Class B & Top Importance Megamanic 09:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Uncredited musicians -- Should get credit in the article?
According to Dr. John's memoir, James Booker contributed a lot of the keyboard work that appears on the final mix, although he didn't get credited or paid.
Ry Cooder has said in interviews that he was invited by Keith Richards to jam at some point in 1970, and that Richards taped the sessions and used several of Cooder's licks as the hooks of songs that appeared on this album and Sticky Fingers, including the classic opening of Brown Sugar from Sticky Fingers.
Would someone working on this project like to add that material to this article?
[edit] Uncredited musicians
All keyboard work on Exile is credited for, and James Booker does not appear on the album.
Ry Cooder appears on both the Let it Bleed and Sticky Fingers album, but not on Exile. Keith Richards has admitted "borowing" the intro riff to Honky Tonk Women from Cooder. Brown Sugar was written by Mick Jagger, including the guitar work. (Heteren 09:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC))
Have you read Dr. John's book Under the Hoodoo Moon? He says the Stones used some of James Booker's work uncredited. How do you know that is untrue?
Adam Holland 14:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sweet Black Angel and Sweet Virginia
It has been stated by Miller, Jagger and Glyn Johns that both Sweet Virginia and Sweet Black Angel were recorded at Stargroves in 1970, and the studio sheets confirm this. Tare is either mistaken, or the Stones were listening to playbacks. (Heteren 09:15, 10 October 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Incredible Bias
" the group's subsequent 1970s releases—directed largely by Jagger—would experiment with various trendy genres, eschewing the country, blues, and early rock and roll which served as a foundation for Exile and the Stones in general." This is the most utterly, hilariously poor example of someone trying to slip POV into an article that I have ever seen. I know people don't like Mick Jagger but those people aren't very intelligent or educated about the Stones; yes, Keith Richards is really cool and everything because he loves blues and did drugs. Fascinating. Mick Jagger's contributions to the Stones at least equal Richards', possibly even exceed them, no matter what preconceived notions you may have about him.
I don't care what you think about the Stones in the 70s. "Trendy" is demeaning. The Stones by no stretch of even a highly overactive, reductive imagination "eschewed" blues early rock or even country on any of their 70s records. This is simply a moronic statement clearly designed to paint jagger as a trendy, irreverant, foppish snob. It's amazing how Keith Richards fans will so doggedly go out of their way--even attempt to rewrite musical history!--in order to subtly assert that Keith Richards is cooler than Mick Jagger. He's not; there's a reason why it's called a "musical partnership" and people should stop trying to say one of the two is better than the other, especially in an objective encyclopedia article. The Stones' mid/late 70s records may be worse than Exile, but if they are, it's because the songwriting isn't as good--not because they "eschewed" their musical roots. The Stones never "eschewed" their musical roots. This is simply inaccurate and foolish to say.
[edit] Query about meaning
"Bassist Bill Wyman did not like the ambience of the Richards villa..." does that mean the acoustic ambience, or the atmosphere between people? Regards, Notreallydavid 23:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ExileMainSt.jpg
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[edit] #19 on Guitar Worlds 100 Best...
...and you use a citation that references an internet chat thread?? ummm.. that's not gonna fly, sorry. Buster 17:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
