Talk:Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland

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Shouldn't this article be renamed the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland? Although it's clearly much smaller, the Orthodox Church of Finland is also an official state church, and has been in the country continuously since the 1200s, 300 years before the Protestant Reformation. See http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/uskoeng.html and http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/ortodeng.html. Wesley 20:29 Apr 21, 2003 (UTC)

AFAIK the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland deliberately avoids using the unqualified name "Church of Finland" precisely because of the existence of the smaller Orthodox Church of Finland. I concur in recommending that the article be renamed. 62.78.176.236 19:36, 28 Sep 2003 (UTC)

You seem to be right. Go along!

-- Ruhrjung 15:23, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I moved to page to correct name "Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland". That is the official name of the church. That is the name the church itself uses, and that is also the name used in the register of religions in Finland. Tero 08:43, 2004 May 7 (UTC)

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I removed the term "Evangelical" as I find Lutheran being less prone to misunderstanding, given the popular US-usage of the "Evangelicalism".
-- Ruhrjung 12:44 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Teachings

So, do only men sin, or do women too? Emerymat 03:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Er, what? Both. --Kizor 17:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Membership losses

A recent edit ( see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_of_Finland&diff=61491025&oldid=61345356 ) removed the (unattributed) percentage loss of members. The web site, http://www.eroakirkosta.fi/tiedotus/resign.html works out the percentage loss for 2005 at 0.6% (which is what the original version had). I'll think about the wording and add back in the loss figures, though thats kind of like an edit revert thus why I'm talking about it. Ttiotsw 01:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intentions and causes of the Swedish Reformation

"The Swedish reformation was started by the state, which wished to confiscate the church property." From the article.

This is a highly oversimplifying statement on the historical causes of the Swedish Reformation. There was instability in the Church before Gustav Vasa decided to change the national religion. An instance of this is the bull decreed from Rome to bishops in Sweden in 1518, which included a plan on how to deal with the "heretics". Particularly in Swedish cities, Reformation Theology was very popular, whereas the rural areas were more inclined to follow the pope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.194.34.225 (talk) 17:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)