Talk:European Democrats

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This page links to the http://epp-ed.europarl.eu.int/home/en/default.asp, which appears to be a joint webpage of both European People's Party and European Democrats. Does the ED have its own page or did those two parties merge or something? --Romanm 10:49, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That is the webpage of the Group of the European Parliament of which both the EPP and the ED are members. The two parties have not merged - to the contrary there are moves for the ED to break away from the EPP-ED group after the election of British Conservative leader David Cameron. chris_nelson

[edit] European Democratic Group

European Democrat Group redirects here. We sholud fix that page as EDP is not only a defunct group of the European Parliament, but also a current group in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. --Checco (talk) 14:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The EDP group at PACE comprises parties which are members of EPP (as the French centrist New Centre), ED (the Conservative Party (UK)) and UEN (National Alliance (Italy)), but also nationalist and unaffliated parties (the Slovak National Party and United Russia). --Checco (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well fine, just a case of adding another section and adjusting the intro. Got any sources on it?- J Logan ^t: 20:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Did you really have to ask? Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 01:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I've assumed that the European Democratic Group (former EP group), European Democrats (EP subgroup) and European Democrat Group (PACE) constitute an association of Conservative parties in Europe and have reformatted European Democrats after the style of Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe accordingly. I have no evidence for this other that the obvious crossover in personnel and parties and User:Checco's contention that the PACE group should be added to this page. Should this not be the case, then the European Democratic Group, European Democrats and European Democrat Group (PACE) pages should be separated out and filled with the details of their respective group/subgroup (the European Democrats (disambiguation) page will also have to be changed). Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 01:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd normally go for that but there is very little data and they PACE groups are not that notable on their own. I think we should combine when we can.- J Logan ^t: 09:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I am concerned about the characterisation of the European Democrats as an transinstitutional alliance/association/cabal for the above reasons, (it's tending toward WP:BOLLOCKS) but it gives us a ALDE-like structure to hang the EP group, EP subgroup and PACE group from, and I don't think anybody will distress themselves: there's an obvious crossover in parties, (tho' it's not an isomorphism). So I'll live with it until the PACE groups get sorted out. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 21:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)