Talk:Eureka Tower
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Is Eureka Tower 88 or 91 stories? Both numbers have been referenced, and I think that the 88 may refer to only the number of residential stories, and 91 includes the uppermost machine floors and observation deck etc. Noticably, www.skyscrapers.com lists 91. Hypernovean 09:59, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The tower itself is 91 stories, but the highest public-access floor (the observation deck) is on level 88. I believe that above that are the lift motor rooms and other plant equipment. Salamagd 20:16, 24 Mar 2004
Tangerine Cossack, do you think that your inclusion of Sky Tower is appropriate? For one, it's not a residential tower, in fact, it's not even a skyscraper, rather a freestanding structure. Sydney Tower is also not mentioned on this page, even though the tip of its spire is taller than the roof of Eureka. Salamagd 09:42, 29 Mar 2004
the picture that someone put up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Eurekatower.jpg) is going to be deleted because whoever put it there forgot to mention its COPYRIGHT STATUS!!! whoever did it please do so... Shrewd.user 07:05, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Eureka Tower - More information needed
I have just had a look at this article and the only real information is it's height and the number of floors. If anyone has the information and spare time, can they please expand it with information such as close proximity to the CBD, Southbank and Crown Casino, the different types of apartments and the total number of them, info about the shops, carpark, controversy (I doubt there is any though. It's a very good looking building in my opinion). Because of the lack of information in the article, I have also given it stub status. Lakeyboy 07:31, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Under Construction?
I'm not entirly sure, but i think construction has completed on the eureka tower, the cranes are down and it said in a newspaper (forgotten which) that construction was complete. But perhaps construction is still underway inside the building.
The tower is externally complete, but since external completion just means cranes down and all glass panels installed, there's still a lot of work to do inside on the upper floors because the glazing also functions as the building's walls :) That said, the lower floors have been inhabited for quite some time now. invincible 10:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Second Tallest Residential Building?
It says that Eureka Tower is the tallest skyscraper in the southern hemisphere, but also says it is the second tallest residential building (being beaten by Q1). To me it seems these two statements are contradictary. According to wikipedia the Q1 is 80 storeys high and Eureka Tower is 91. Eureka Tower is 297.2 metres high and Q1 is 275 metres (not inclusive of the spire). But mainly how can it be the tallest building in the southern hemisphere and and second tallest residential building to one located in the southern hemisphere at the same time?
Yes, it should say that it is the second tallest building in the southern hemisphere. --WikiCats 13:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The problem is, people keep changing these pages back and forth according to which building they want to be the tallest. The Q1 was designed to be the world's tallest residential tower. An up-swept structure was incorporated at the top and this includes the spire. This is part of the building. For Eureka Tower they chose not to include a spire. Buildings are measured to the top of the spire because it is part of the architecture. --WikiCats 14:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Q1 says it is the tallest and i have been there and it says on record it is also and at the Eureka Tower it says the second one so there is no need to put it as the tallest you will just throw people off![[Sparrowman980 00:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)]]
- The article clearly explains the situation between Eureka Tower and Q1, so nobody should be thrown off by it. If you read the full sentence you have been editing, it says "Eureka Tower is the tallest residential building in the world, when measured either by the height of its roof, or by the height of its highest habitable floor." That sentence is true, and your edits have been making it untrue. This is why I am reverting your edit for the second time. If you do not understand, please reply on this talk page, but do not mark my good-faith edit as vandalism. Thank you Easel3 04:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What was the supposed big fib?
The "controversy" section makes no sense. It says that a big fib was told, but doesn't say what the fib (supposedly) was. This section should be made clearer, or removed. Rocksong 02:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
It's a disagreement over whether spires count or not. Q1's spire reaches 322m but the top floor is only around 240m high, whereas Eureka's highest point is the 91st floor (or to be precise, a 3m parapet that extends above the roof of the 91st floor) reaching 297m above ground. Deciding on which building is taller then depends on interpretation of the rules, and whether a spire should contribute to the building height. In Australia, spire heights were never recognised until Q1 was built: the spires on 101 Collins Street and 120 Collins Street are both taller than the Rialto Towers but the Rialto was always considered the tallest building in Australia until the construction of Eureka and Q1. Maybe I should have just added that to the article. invincible 08:54, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Observation deck
Is the observation deck open?
- Not yet. The website is incredibly out of date and provides no info though. invincible 10:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just read an article that says the observation deck will open on 15 May 2007. I've updated the article. Garnercx 10:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite
I'm going to start a rewrite of the article, but I'll need lots of help with finding sources because I'm writing a lot of stuff out of the top of my head or at best using info from the threads at OzScrapers (search Archives). I can get a fair bit of info down since I've been following the tower's construction but sources are quite hard to find especially considering a few of the forumers went out to do their own research. Here's the work in progress, feel free to contribute: User:Invincible/Eureka Tower. invincible 11:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- The existing article mentions the different way tallest building is measured, and its rivalry with Q1 (building). Make sure you include that. Actually the Q1 article may be a reasonable template. Rocksong 23:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Point taken. :) I'll take a while to get through the rewrite though since I tend to get carried away with other things (like the summer). invincible 12:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Floor count dispute
Okay, several anonymous editors have repeatedly been changing the floor count from "91 plus one underground" to 92. I've reverted these edits because the {{Infobox skyscraper}} docs do state that a distinction should be made between above ground and underground floors, probably to prevent towers with large basements like World Tower from inflating their floor counts. Additionally, I've added references to the 91 floor count - Emporis unfortunately hides all but the most basic data so we only have the count for over ground floors. Does counting the floors on a plan count as original research? I counted the floors from this building section - http://www.aecbytes.com/feature/2004/Eureka-images/fig3b.html, and there are 91 floors plus the basement. Level 92 is where the satellite dish is in that image but AFAIK, that is the parapet and there is no roof. The official plans illustrate this better but I can't find them anywhere. I'm not sure whether these anonymous editors are changing the count to 92 because they are counting the top parapet floor (thus having 92 floors above ground) or because they're counting the single basement floor (92 total floors). -- invincible 09:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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