Template talk:EU evolvement timeline

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Contents 1 SEA 2 Hard to understand 3 Euratom 4 ECSC 5 New design 6 Title bar needed 7 Schengen Agreement 8 ECSC & Euratom

[edit] SEA

I have added Single European Act in 1987.

The Timeline is wrong. The European Union didn't start until the Treaty on European Union or Maastricht Treaty came into force in 1992

[edit] Hard to understand

This chart is rather hard to understand. Some squares are unlabelled, some entities appear twice, and it's unclear what entities merged off of or joined with others vs. what jurisdictions they had. -- Beland 01:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Removed the image cleanup tag. The chart appears to be significantly improved since the tag was placed. Dread Pirate Westley•^Aargh 23:57, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Euratom

Euratom didn't come into effect until 1957, unlike the chart shows, but I don't know how exactly to change it. 68.40.190.93 00:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ECSC

The ECSC lasted until 2002 now it looks like it ended in year 2000.Benkeboy 08:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New design

Absolutely wonderful. —Nightstallion 02:40, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Title bar needed

This table badly needs a title bar to explain what it is. My attempts have failed miserably so I've walked away rather than risk ruining it. --Red King (talk) 19:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

This template is mostly used as in-text illustration, and the sorrounding text in the various articles should explain and introduce this timeline with a colon, IMO. - S Solberg J 12:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Schengen Agreement

As somebody introduced the Western European Union I think its' necessary to introduce also the Schengen Agreement! Can somebody do it? Sinigagl (talk) 17:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Schengen is only one part of the cooperation, like the euro. The WEU is a separate organisation. - S Solberg J 14:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

So what? The Schengen Agreement has been inserted in the TEC from the Treaty of Amsterdam and called Schengen acquis. It is part of the european integration: before there were separate institutions, then everything is done by the EU institutions.

There should be a new bar beginning in 1985 and going into the European Community bloc beginning from 1999.

In fact WEU should not be disappearing while going into the EU in the graph: as you told it's still a separate working institution.

Sinigagl (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

And the WEU remains in the timeline! It's just that the Amsterdam Treaty moved some of its elements under the EU's CFSP. The Schengen acquis is not, and has never been an organisation, no matter under which circumstances it was formed. - S Solberg J 22:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Probably I'm not so capable to explain.

For sure Schengen was an organization: it had an Executive Committee which has been created under the agreement from 1985 (actually from 1990) to 1999. But even if it was not an organization this is not the point: Schengen is a piece of EU evolvement.

Just like the WEU. What I wanted to say was that the Weu bar should not disappear as it does now from 1999: it should remain a (thinner) band, because WEU it's still working, even if some part of it has been taken by the EU's CFSP.

Sinigagl (talk) 00:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh.. Are you using Internet Explorer? That browser messes up the table. In Opera and Firefox, the WEU bar is still there after 1999, just thinner. - S Solberg J 13:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I see. But what about Schengen? Sinigagl (talk) 10:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ECSC & Euratom

The recent changes look good, and I think its good the WEU is there, in particular the better grouping of "European Communities". However after that I don't think it makes clear that the other two communities were operated by the EEC - while they were separate, it make it look like they were totally autonomous.- J Logan ^t: 17:41, 14 April 2008 (UTC)