Talk:Estates-General of 1789

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Contents 1 Freemasonry 2 First & Second Estates 3 Unattributed copying? 4 A whole bunch of books

[edit] Freemasonry

The remark about Mirabeau being "a member of the freemasonry lodge of the Nine Sisters" was made by User:Melkart without citation. At about the same time, at Storming of the Bastille a similar remark was made, anonymously, about Camille Desmoulins. I am not sure of the accuracy or relevance of either statement; barring citation, I am inclined to revert, but will leave a chance for comment first. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:11, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] First & Second Estates

The clergy formed the first estate while the nobility formed the second estate. I fixed the language in the Background section but am unsure as to how to procede with the text later on. I cannot access the source text at quid.fr, as it is a paid service, in order to examine the original french material to attempt at least a rough translation to see why the 'translation' that appears here contradicts everything else.

The original poster needs to fix the obvious errors. This article contradicts Wikipedia's own Estates_of_the_realm as well as other postings on the internet (http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1111044 http://www.france.com/culture/display_item.cfm?id=154 http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/REV/FIRST.HTM http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/lecture11a.html http://www.lepg.org/classes.htm)

[edit] Unattributed copying?

This text has much in common with that on http://www.france.com/culture/display_item.cfm?id=154 The latter includes some details missing from the current wikipedia article, but it's not clear which is the original. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.145.187.67 (talk • contribs) 19 July 2006.

Their site explicitly acknowledges that they copied from us under GFDL; it looks like there are some minor compliance issues (they link back to our site for the text of the license instead of reproducing it themselves) but nothing major. - Jmabel | Talk 05:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A whole bunch of books

If you are going to make a change and say it reflects "a whole bunch of books", would it be so hard to cite one? - Jmabel | Talk 20:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

http://www.assumption.edu/dept/history/Hi118net/ChronologyFrenchRev.html gives 27 Dec 1788 as the date of the "doubling of the Third Estate". I'm not finding a lot else on line, once I weed out copies of our own article. Since the change matches the French-language Wikipedia, I'll presume it is correct, but a good citation would be very welcome. - Jmabel | Talk 21:04, 21 September 2006 (UTC)