Talk:Estádio da Luz

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Is it possible for someone to edit the article to make the point, if the Sunderland stadium of a similar title is to be mentioned, that the English translation "Stadium of Light" is patently incorrect? The correct translation is "The Light Stadium", seeing as Luz refers to a part of the city of Lisbon rather than the quality, light. As is typical, sadly, going all the way back to the start of any sort of broadcasting in England, BBC, ITV, etc, and I suspect, the newspapers also, English journalists have no idea how to deal with European languages. The same stupid error was made recently with respect to the African Nations Cup, by the way.

It was a shock to me only 6 months ago to find that the "Light" in Stadium of Light refers to urban geography. I suspect it will also come as a shock to the people involved in naming the 'new' Sunderland stadium a few years back. Yes, there are local connections there to light (the quality) but there is no way that it would have been so named if they, as football fans, hadn't been aware of the Benfica stsdium name. Of course, they would have had no idea that Luz was a matter of geography either.

88.111.128.141 (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)



[edit] Style of the article

"Benfica desperately needed to stop the rot!" "Many Benfica fans went far enough to stop the bulldosers."

The style of the article is far from encyclopedia text. Is there anyone who knows about the subject matter to go through this text?

Also, the Luz-light controversy is not very well explained. If Luz doesn't refer to light at all, why was the new stadium designed for maximum natural light? Is it not possible it refers to both the place _and_ light? CarlosCoppola 08:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I am somewhat annoyed to find out that most of this information was stolen from me. I work on www.planetbenfica.co.uk and the majority of this article is copied word for word from the new stadium section.

Also, I would like to clarify that the areas of the artcle being criticised, for example the lack of clarification between whether Luz is the area of Lisbon or a reference to light, and the fans stopping the bulldozers have nothing to do with me. The parts I have written may also not be "encyclopedia texts" but they were in no way written to be.

Anyone who wishes to discuss the article or the stadium can post on the planetbenfica forums as i am an admin there.

the benfica stadium naming belongs to the original stadium, which was demolished to enable the construction of the new stadium for the euro 2004 tournament. the naming relates entirely to the district name and not to the quality of light that was always there in the original stadium.

as a second generation stadium largely of the 1960's and 1970's, it had no roof, apart from around the media and VIP area.

OK, being a Benfica fan, and living very near the stadium, let me clarify a few things: the name of the neighbouhood derives from a church and convent, that of Nossa Senhora da Luz (Our Lady of the Light), a protected landmark located about 700m North of the stadium's location. Note that it is also irrelevant to mark out if i'm referring to the new or the old stadium, since the new one even superimposes partially the old stadium's location. The whole area can be called Luz, and Luz does mean Light in Portuguese. The stadium is called (unoficially) Estádio da Luz in preciselly the same way Wembley is called after the neighbourhood where it is located. Nevertheless, for anyone not residing in the surroundings, The "Luz" in Estádio da Luz is identified as "Light" and not as the location. This is indirectly ascertained by the club's hymn, "Papoilas Saltitantes": Ser Benfiquista/É ter na alma a chama imensa/Que nos conquista/E leva à palma a luz intensa/Do sol que lá no céu/Risonho vem beijar/Com orgulho muito seu/As camisolas berrantes/Que nos campos a vibrar/São papoilas saltitantes. This passage translates roughly (my translation) as: To be a Benfica Fan/is to carry in your soul/the imense flame (...) that overwhelms us and leads to the trophy/ the intense light [here is the double meaning, light and Luz]of the Sun that (...) smilingly descends to kiss (...) [Benfica's] shirts (...)". --Pedrojpinto 16:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separate article for old Estadio da Luz?

Should a separate article be written for the old Estadio da Luz? It seems this article focuses more on the current stadium. The new stadium was built on the same site as the old, according to the Portuguese article on the old stadium. Patken4 01:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, i think it would be a necessary improvement, given the importance the old stadium had in portuguese and european football history --Pedrojpinto 15:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

    • I've added information to that entry, maybe a list of results and important matches played at the old stadium would be a nice addition, please check it out. --Pedrojpinto 19:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)--19:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)213.22.203.34

[edit] question

Wouldn´t be more accurate to describe it as a sports complex and not only "a football stadium" ? It has a swimming center, two pavillions, a second field, a comercial area with the main store... this article only focus the football... --Eagle Fly Free SLB 18:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Agree, be my guest Ordep 03:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)