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[edit] Moving Sidewalk Merge?

I propose that Moving sidewalk be merged in: see talk:Moving sidewalk. Blotwell 05:55, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

See my (positive) comments there.
Atlant 11:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Long article

This article is rather long. Are there any thoughts on splitting it? The Storm Surfer 20:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


I agree. Here are some suggestions:

  • Make "Moving walkways," "High speed walkways," and "Inclined Moving sidewalks" into a separate article. They did not develop at the same time, they are not the same thing as escalators, and they should be granted their own entry. Likewise, any text about moving walkways should be removed from this article and incorporated into the separate entry.
  • As for the "longest" section, I fear that this will need constant updating, and is partially irrelevant except for trivia purposes. It has been a controversial section, as well. . . .
  • Some of the newly-added information in the "designs" section can be moved elsewhere (there may be some overlap of information), and text from those other sections can be edited out, as necessary.
  • The "standing and walking" section seems too long. . . . Does it really need to be addressed that specifically?
  • The "science fiction" section seems to be more about moving walks than escalators. Could be incorporated into the big moving walks article. . . .

Just some thoughts. . . . BFDhD 16:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

First, I want to make sure it's clear that I'm not suggesting that the article should be made shorter merely because it is long (some of your phrasing seemed to suggest that might be your opinion), I'm suggesting that we might in fact have two articles that have been mistakenly written under one title. Now that that's out of the way...
Splitting the moving walkways into their own article seems reasonable to me. The only reason I didn't initially suggest it is that the moving sidewalks article had in fact been created and then merged into this one! I don't know what the precedents are or how people would feel about an un-merge. The Storm Surfer 23:09, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Don't know why you would have got that idea from my "phrasing." Your headline read "long article," and some of the text is repetitive, so I thought I'd include my thoughts on that. Believe me, I've spent a lot of time researching escalators, and I know that the "longest escalators" section could be a seemingly endless task to keep updated and accurate. I, too, had seen that moving walkways was merged into this, but the two are not the same thing, and I believe the individual articles can both stand on their own. Enough about me-- what do you suggest be done to split this article? (This is not intended to be adversarial, merely friendly.)BFDhD 20:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Escalators and travelators

I think that this article should be split as i do not think escalators and travelators are the same thing. What do other people think? Simply south 17:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


I agree that there should be two different articles. This has come up before, and there is enough information on both so that they can stand alone as the "Escalators" and "Moving Walks/Trav-O-Lators/Travelators/Moving Sidewalks" entries. I think a disambiguation page would help, too. Thoughts? Anyone?

--BFDhD 23:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

There's an inherent difference between an escalator and a travelator which becomes obvious when they're stopped. A stopped travelator (moving walk etc) looks like a long piece of metal flooring. A stopped escalator looks remarkably similar to a metal staircase (albeit with varying step height at the very top and bottom). Split Escalators from Travelators, although I also agree a disambiguation page would be helpful. Perhaps also mention in both that an escalator can have longish flat sections as well, and that a travelator can still take people up/down if inclined.

--Peeky44 11:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I was actually going to suggest this myself. Though some of the technology involved is similar, the two are very different things. It should be a simple case of just copying the sections of this article that refer to 'moving walkways' to a separate article.--Jcvamp 19:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Undergone split. See Moving walkway. Simply south 22:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

I have seen this comment but am not sure enough of the source to put it on the main page

"In 1898, Harrods installed the city's first escalator, complete with attendants waiting at the next floor with glasses of brandy for customers overcome by the experience. "

Harrods ids the famous UK store


It was in a department store history book . . . I'll get back to you!

BFDhD 20:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

See reference - Lancaster, Bill. The Department Store: a Social History. London: Leicester University Press, 1995: 50. (#11, under "Early European manufacturers: Hallé, Hocquardt, and Piat") --BFDhD 19:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)