Talk:Eruca sativa

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[edit] Names

What is arugula?

In Latin it's eruca; in French, roquette; in northern Italian, rucola; in southern Italian, rughetta or ruchetta; in English, 'rocket'. Chameleon 23:51, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

... and Rauke in german. -- Lightkey 06:02, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
... and arúgula in Spanish. — Pekinensis 13:29, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
... no, actually, in Spanish it's rúcula, not arúgula. Arugula comes into English directly from Italian, not Spanish. The fact that the French form won out in Commonwealth English was actually a later development; the American "arugula" is, in fact, one of many "archaisms"...Early Modern English words preserved in American English that have since been supplanted in Commonwealth English by other words or forms. Tomertalk 04:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
... should the name of the entry be changed to "Rocket (herb)", if "Rocket" is the International English name and "Arugula" specifically the American? -- 128.118.112.94 04:26, 20 Jul 2004 (CET)
...As explained above, "rocket" is the "innovation", not "arugula". Tomertalk 04:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe not "(herb)". How about "(plant)" or "(food")? — Chameleon My page/My talk 07:54, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Redirects are cheap.  :-) Tomertalk 04:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
The Italian term is rucola, not arugula, which is not an archaism at all, but a recent American coinage (it appeared first in the New York Times in 1960, according to the Oxford English Dictionary). ---The user formerly known as JackLumber 22:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is the cheese burek described as "squeaky"? Is this vandalism? How is a cheese squeaky? Aaroncorey (talk) 17:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Aaron- I don't know about the burek mentioned, but I've heard of squeaky cheese somewhere before, so I did a quick search. A couple results:
-Eric talk 17:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

The Spanish original name (in Spain) is NOT rúcula (this is a very recent snobby imported name from the Italian original, from those who rediscovered the rocket in fashion cooking, and it is now widely used as the commercial name in the markets); the Spanish traditional name is 'oruga' (written like caterpillar); it comes clearly from he Latin name Eruca. The word Oruga for Eruca vesicaria (Eruca sativa) and the plant qualities and properties appears already in many old garden and medicine books, from the time of Charles V ad Philipp II (16th Century, i.e.: Andrés Laguna's version of Dioscorides, or Gregorio de los Ríos' Garden Agriculture); I use to grow arucula, oruga, and I have seen and collect it wild in different locations in Spain, and in some places in the countryside it is still consumed and appreciated by the country people. After living sometime in the US and Canada, I have seen those name variations apparently coming form Spanish of Central America -which of course is as much respectable and valid as traditional Spanish from Spain-, only that the name 'rúcola' is as well a recent introduction there. Francisco franfigueroa@inicia.es —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.35.41.17 (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

I added this page to the Rocket (disambiguation) page (because I couldn't find this when looking for "rocket").

... Well, it's a bit esoteric, but I guess if you really feel that way... Jfiling 23:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
That sounds like a grand idea. Tomertalk 04:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to grow Arugula

The main article could be improved if there were a word or two on growing conditions, how long it takes for a seed to germinate, and what kind of soil is best to plant it in. The packet says the seeds take 45 days to grow to maturity. But if I want to pick the seeds for a mild homemade mustard, not as biting as real mustard, how much longer will it take for it to bloom, and then for the blooms to go to seed?

I just bought a packet of Arugula seeds for $1.49 and was wondering if it would cross with the mustard I planted thirty years ago, and allowed to go to seed. From what I understand, all species of Brassica tend to cross with one another, whether it is Brussel Sprouts, Turnips, Cabbage, Cauliflower or Mustard. They crossbreed with one another, and lose their special characteristics, and become very average. It has been 30 years since I planted mustard, and it went to seed, and crossed with some of the local Brassica weeds found in the foothills of Portland, Oregon. (About a year ago, I chopped up some wild brassica, cooked it in the microwave, and added some cheese for flavoring. It gave me a horrendous stomach ache like you wouldn't believe. I writhed in agony for the rest of the day, but the next day I was okay. The same thing happens when I eat raw mustard, and don't cook it well enough.)198.177.27.12 01:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. Please register for an wikipedia username and post. I think the question needs to be asked if you were actually eating Arugula. I can imagine mistaking a similar looking weed for the real thing. Also, are you able to eat turnips ok? Nodekeeper 08:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John McCain reference incorrect

It wasn't McCain who questioned the price of arugula in Iowa, but Barack Obama. At minimum the reference should be corrected and dated, but for some reason I don't understand "edit the page" doesn't have the reference.

Which is I would think better than intruding an American political campaign gaffe into this article.

Could someone fix this? Lonnie Nesseler 14:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I deleted that niche market/Obama bit (again). Not sure how relevant it is for the article, but it definitely doesn't belong in the intro. The Obama > McCain change was just someone clowning around. -Eric talk 15:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
That gaffe was the first time I had ever heard of arugula, and the reason I looked it up (for what it's worth). Fishal (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)