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The following comments have been left for this page:
Much of the "Alcoholic" section is quoted verbatim from Games People Play...only without indicating that it's a (large) quote, but instead as if plain article text. The article author did a block quote in another section, although without introducing it with a frame like "Here is part of Berne's analysis of the game 'Alcoholic'", which I think is needed too, to make it clear that quoting is going on.
Berne's opinions on AA in particular here are pretty controversial (e.g., AA would say they refuse to play the Rescuer role, but take something like Berne's "Adult contractual position" on p.78 of the book), so the fact that he is being quoted (rather than the article itself discussing alcoholism) is important.
I would edit the formatting myself except that I would rather the whole quoted section be removed. I remember liking GPP in the seventies.
I'm also wondering whether the length of the quote exceeds fair use, or at least some Wikipedia (or common sense) limit on reliance on direct quoting. It's certainly too overly-focused to illustrate the man's whole life, unless you're trying to demonstrate that he had a tendency to take pot shots (did he?) or that he was on a crusade against AA (was he?). If fixed up, it might make a good example in the Transactional Analysis article...or maybe in an article about alcoholism.
Parts of "Alcoholic" section of Games People Play are available online here: http://www.ericberne.com/games/games_people_play_alcoholic.htm
The whole book is visible using Amazon's "search inside this book" at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345410033
SteveWitham 05:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC) (edit)
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I just discovered that Wikipedia needed this article. While I've tried to maintain NPOV, I must confess that I knew Doc Berne, and was a guest at several parties at his home in the late 1960s. So I've asked for someone to review this. While I'll try to avoid any edit wars, I will speak out for a generally favorable view of this sometimes contriversial genius. Lou I 19:59, 12 Sep 2003 (UTC)
The web site "www.ericberne.com" cannot be called "the official web site of Eric Berne" since he died in 1970 and therefore could never have had or even seen a web site, official or otherwise.
- (My point of view in responce to your concerne) If anything, I think you could definitely get away with, and might even be negligent by w/out a greater attempt @ thoroughness. (Are "scripts" covered @ all [eg]?). Thaddeus Slamp (talk) 00:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Further Reading" section
In the further reading section, it would appear that someone has partially removed a reference to one of Berne's books. If there are no objections, then I will put back the missing text in approximately one week.
Nbahn 21:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
