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[edit] quality and organisation of this article
take a look at the equivalent article for N.ireland. although very little context is given it is far better organised and professional, and critically to an encyclo, its easy to find and understand the info. anyone want to copy some of its features here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.221.233 (talk) 22:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Notability
This article, as it currently stands, makes almost no effort whatsoever to reliably establish the notability of its topic, as per WP:NOTABILITY, WP:RS and WP:CITE. This is, quite frankly, astounding, as English law is so central to the history of law worldwide. In fact, it is hard to underestimate the extent of the influence of English law.
The intro is absolutely appalling. It seems like an attempt to grossly downplay the subject, and the whole first half of the article tries to explain what English law is not, rather than what it is!!
I am certain that there are many people out there with profound knowledge of the English legal system. Please could one of you at least write a decent, perhaps 3 paragraph, introduction to the topic, preferably properly cited. And please relegate the long, apologetic bit about "and Wales" to an explanatory subsection - it is not central to grasping the topic.-- Mais oui! 08:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- And setting the topic in a solid historical context early in the piece would be nice too. Sorry to be so grumpy, but I really find the condition of this article to be truly lamentable, after Wikipedia has been up and running for many years now. We ought to at least aim to bring it up to WP:GA status, although WP:FA seems a million miles away at present. -- Mais oui! 08:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
i think this has been somewhat addressed now in the introduction (not by me)82.27.221.233 (talk) 22:07, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] can the name be changed to "The Law of England and Wales"??
this phrase was used from at least 1967 onwards, prior to that there was a law saying any mention of england included wales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.221.233 (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] English law as a jurisdiction
this section seems to contain some thing of value ie a couple of refs even if not done correctly although some of the stuff there seems meandering and tangential and vague and shouldnt be this high in the article even if in... but i dont want to remove anything without putting better in place, so i haven't done much to it, you are right it needs a thorough reworking. i have tried to quickly remove some blatant innacuracies ie that stating that there are four jurisdictions in the uk england scotland northern ireland and wales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.221.233 (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] English/British
I think that prehaps we should move it to British Law, and have Welsh, Scottish & NI law, if needed, as a subtopic under British Law, keeping the main focus on English law. microchip08 (talk) 20:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- That makes no sense to me at all. Scottish and English legal systems are quite distinct in many ways, what is the practical use of having a single topic about both? English law is closer to the law of Australia/Canada etc and even the USA than it is to that of Scotland, so if we are grouping that woudl be wrong. Very little law is "British" in any useful sense (Employment law is mostly GB wide and Immigration law UK wide, but those are exceptions, EU law is after all EU wide). There is no separate "Welsh" legal system. There are regulations that apply only to Wales (and now most of these are made by the Welsh Ministers) but that doesn't mean its a separate jurisdiction. Can you explain this odd suggestion? Francis Davey 16:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree with Francis Davey & Ravenseft, removing move template since there is no consensus --Lox (t,c) 10:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
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- i can't take that seriously ! removing English law to british!! lets remove it to korean! i agree with you all except the proposer82.27.221.233 (talk) 21:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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