Talk:Empress Shōken

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There has been a certain Gryffindor (neé Antares) who has forcefully wanted this to be "Dowager empress Shoken". However, already simplicity means that empress Shoken is better. And additionally, highest title is used of the dead - consort is regarded as higher than dowager. We always have the alternative to put her under Empress Haruko. Arrigo 23:06, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

See Talk:Empress Teimei for further discussion. Švitrigaila 13:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)