Talk:Embraer ERJ 145 family

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What is the saftey record of this aircraft?

Off-hand, I know only of two incidents--both due to pilot error. One accident was due to excessive descent rates by a Rio-Sul pilot in southern Brazil. He hit the ground four times faster than was certified speed. Here's the Press Release. The other was a Continental Express flight which overran the runway on a snowy day. Neither was due to any type of failure on the aircraft's part. --Dali-Llama 03:52, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Proposed move 2 Safety Record 3 Concern vs. Company 4 World Trade Center 1995 advert by EMBRAER 5 Fair use rationale for Image:EMB R-99A.jpg

[edit] Proposed move

• Judging by Embraer's website and the google hits (of the first 10, only Wikipedia has the name in all-caps, other than in a title), I'm inclined to think it's all the other articles that should be moved. Niteowlneils 03:11, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I have in fact made that proposal now. Discussion at Talk:EMBRAER. Dragons flight 05:38, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
    • Concur with caps removal--Dali-Llama 16:59, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Safety Record

I have witnessed a runway overrun in Bilbao Spain. No serious injuries. I have photos to prove it!

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Runway overruns are fairly common compared to mechanical accidents, and 99% of the time are caused by a combination of bad weather and pilot error. Though I'd be personally curious to see the pictures, tacking it onto the article would not be demonstrative of the overall safety record of the aircraft.--Dali-Llama 13:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree totally, but since you mentioned 2 incidents, I just wanted to add some more information. This time again as you rightly said, it was due to bad weather and pilot error. By the way, I designed the flaps, speed brake and ground spoiler for this aircraft, so I am quite proud of its safety record! Still no ID provided

Give it a try. I still think it's going to be hard to remain NPOV, but if we think it's too "dramatic", then we could always remove it. I am interested in seeing the pics, personally, BTW =)--Dali-Llama 20:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

This is the original newspaper article. It´s in Spanish, sorry! http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/avion/sale/pista/aeropuerto/Sondika/elpepiesp/20010124elpepinac_34/Tes/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.81.199.196 (talk) 10:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been on these family of planes several times on express jet and I think any accidents such as runway overrun is due to pilot error. I've had some very rough landings (rouugh enough to jarr your head and make you jump in your seat) despite very good weather conditions and no wind which leads me to believe that pilots with less experience fly these, where as more experienced ones fly the bigger ones like the 747-400. I've never had a rough landing on a 747-400. 132.178.170.118 (talk) 18:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Concern vs. Company

Fine, change it. "Concern" is just as valid as "company." Just please don't refer to it as an "error." See [1], definition 2. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 15:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I have never heard that definition of concern (at least not as much as "company"), so I apologize for the error remark. Despite that, it's still better if we use a term which is commonplace and simple, especially since a lot of people who come to wikipedia do not speak english as a first language.--Dali-Llama 16:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World Trade Center 1995 advert by EMBRAER

How about that - EMB145 Beyond basics? Now I know where Al Qaeda found the inspiration. --Yuriy Lapitskiy 09:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:EMB R-99A.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)