Talk:Elsa Tauser

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I'm not sure if we need this article or not, but since 1990 the German government has tracked their 'oldest people,' and with the media reporting increasing, we see that a clear titleholder succession line has emerged, which argues for a possible article (either for each person or a 'list of titleholders'). Ryoung122 21:00, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Pages on recent deaths are often better watched than others. I'm sure if this article should be deleted, someone will come along and nominate it. Cheers, CP 01:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

The larger issue for me is, how long does someone have to live before their age makes them bio-worthy? Or more specifically, how long does one have to hold a title for that title to make them bio-worthy? What other factors are involved? I think that Irmgard von Stephani warrants an article; not only was she Germany's oldest person but a media star, which her photo everywhere and her death noted outside Germany. With Elsa Tauser, this is less clear: her death came so soon there wasn't a chance to put her picture in the German papers. So far, only a very few nations accurately track and report the death of their oldest resident consistently; the USA, Japan, France, the UK, the Netherlands, etc. all do. But being the 'oldest person' from a tiny island nation (i.e. Dominica) doesn't compare to being 'one of 80 million' (i.e. Germany's population). (I prefer a cutoff of maybe 40-50 million or nations whose oldest person is 'always' 110 or older...meaning not Norway, whose oldest person is currently 108). I suggest we leave for now but we could make separate article pages that track, for example, the 'doyennes de France', 'oldest living Americans', etc. In that case, we could then provide the basic bio-stats and expand the ones that were 'charismatic'/'made the news' into their own article. Note a current problem: we have previous 'oldest persons' listed (such as Hermann Dörnemann and Lina Zimmer), but no article on Frieda Muller breaks the sucession chain. Should we add an article on Frieda Müller? Or if we created a 'Germany's oldest person' page then clicking on 'Frieda Müller' would re-direct to that page, which would eliminate the need to have an article for 'everyone' in order to make the chain work.

The bottom line: IS BEING GERMANY'S OLDEST PERSON FOR JUST ONE DAY QUALITATIVELY DIFFERENT THAN BEING GERMANY'S OLDEST PERSON FOR 2+YEARS? Like BASEBALL: should we have an article on EVERY major league player that ever lived, even if they played just one day? Hmmm...or just those who were notable over a period of time (doesn't have to be a HOFer...Joe Mauer is notable as a batting champ, HOF or not). Ryoung122 05:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I can answer your larger question, but I can answer it in regards to Wikipedia's notability policy. If enough articles were written about her (be it in English, German whatever) that a full article could be written about her, then she is "bio-worthy" for Wikipedia. I guess I shouldn't say that it ONLY relies on news coverage – technically, I should replace "articles" with "third-party sources," I just don't think people are going to be writing books or papers about her. Notability is fairly skewed on Wikipedia - even Olympians who did no better than thirtieth or fourtieth in the games are automatically entitled to a page, just because they participated. Cheers, CP 14:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Well: I think Frieda Müller definitely does warrant an article about her, and so I already had her name wikified, hence. Extremely sexy 12:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)