Talk:El Cazador de la Bruja

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the El Cazador de la Bruja article.
Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (`~~~~`). Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Ask questions, get answers. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject.	Be polite Assume good faith No personal attacks Be welcoming	Article policies No original research Neutral point of view Verifiability

	Portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anime and manga, which aims to improve and expand anime and manga related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article or visit the project page.
Start	This article has been rated as Start-Class on the assessment scale.

1 There is no spoon fork
2 Demographic
3 Title translation
4 Fair use rationale for Image:Elcazador.png

[edit] There is no spoon fork

The recent addition of the fork reference, now labeled by Koveras as OR, obviously lacks citations and is, in my opinion, pretty far out there. It's certainly a lot less obvious than the Noir hotel reference. I'm voting to remove it. --Darkbane 03:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Support, per nom. :D --Koveras ^☭ 13:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Demographic

I support the removal of the demographic data, for AFAIK Bee Train's anime never clearly defines those (at least, neither Noir, nor Madlax did it). Unless there is a reliable source that claims EC to be a seinen anime, we should leave the matter open IMO. --Koveras ^☭ 16:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The manga is seinen (it's serialized in Champion RED, which is a seinen manga magazine 1) and the article is for both the anime and the manga, so the demographic data is accurate. Kazu-kun 19:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahem, manga is also a fanservice to the extreme which is hardly the case with anime. Should we add "fanservice" to the genres, too? :) --Koveras ^☭ 21:47, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, the anime has some fanservice of its own, but lucky for us fanservice is not a genre. ^^ Kazu-kun 22:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm with Koveras on this. Unlike what seems to be used as the "norm"(basing demographic data on the original works i.e the manga whenever anime are adapted from it.), El Cazador is the other way round - being the manga adapted from the anime. Per above, Bee Train never actually defined these, prefering to walk the middle line. So what I suggest would be adding 'shounen' as more of stylistic indicator. If a third(or more) agrees with Korveras and myself, I support the removal of the demographic data for the time being. Sakura rin24 10:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Both, the anime and manga came at the same time. And adding shounen is just incorrect. Remember that this is a demographic categorization, and the only source for this is the magazine in which the series is serialized (it's not about "norm", it's just the way it is).Kazu-kun 12:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I support Kazu-kun in that EC is not shounen, but I also support Sakura in that EC isn't seinen, either. }-P --Koveras ^☭ 13:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Koveras. Look, more consideration should really be put into it. Putting El Cazador as seinen isn't completely right either. Firstly, the anime came out first not the manga. The Champion Red page is still in OR status and Shonen would actually be more accurate as Aikita primarily does Shonen and Shojo. Sakura rin24 21:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title translation

"El Cazador" means "The Hunter", specifically, a male one ("el" is a male article). "De la Bruja" means "of the Witch", specifically, a single witch, otherwise it'd be "de Brujas" (plural and without a definite article, "la"). "Witch Hunter", however, refers to someone who hunts generic witches in English, therefore I believe that "The Hunter of the Witch" is the more correct translation. --Koveras ^☭ 13:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually both are correct.Sirynx77 08:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Elcazador.png

Image:Elcazador.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 21:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)