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First ascents dates for K2 and Gasherbrum II do not match those given by:

http://www.adventurestats.com/tables/8000erbasics.htm

The current dates listed taken from other web sources.

RedWolf 09:11, Dec 6, 2003 (UTC)

1 First ascensionist of Gasherbrum I
2 China vs Tibet?
3 WP:FLC
4 Death rates
5 Pakistan/India
6 Vladislav Terzyul
7 British/English?
8 Statistics
9 Tibet?
10 Peter Schoening

[edit] First ascensionist of Gasherbrum I

Some web sites give Kaufman, some Kauffman. I couldn't find a definitive spelling. Gdr 15:28, 2004 Jul 7 (UTC)

[edit] China vs Tibet?

This page seems to be inconsistent about the use of China or Tibet... any ideas how to resolve this? (who are you?)

It really should be Tibet. While Tibet is not officially a country but a (disputed?) region of China, no one that I ever talk to when referring to mountains straddling the Nepal/Tibet border use China as the location. RedWolf 05:28, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

Agreed! I will change it. Ok?

Agreed. And as nobody disagreed since 2005, I now just did it. (Nov, 30, 2007)

[edit] WP:FLC

Another excellent list - I trust someone is thinking of nominating this on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates? All it needs are some references. -- ALoan (Talk) 17:24, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Death rates

I think the "death rates" are a bit misleading. You'd think it would be a climbers chance of dying while attempting the summit, but it appears to actually be the ratio of deaths to successful ascents. -- Scott e^iπ 10:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The ratios given are a pretty standard way of measuring the death rate, although you are correct that one could (in principle) instead give the ratio of deaths to attempts. One problem is that the number of attempts is much harder to quantify (what counts?) and obtain (who keeps careful track?).

True. The info is useful but should probably by clarified. -- Scott e^iπ 05:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pakistan/India

I reverted some recent edits changing locations to from Pakistan or Pakistan/China to India. These peaks are all under the control of Pakistan, and the claim by India is already included in the footnote. See e.g. the discussion at Talk:K2. -- Spireguy 02:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vladislav Terzyul

In this article it is written: he succeeded in climbing all fourteen eight-thousanders in the world so why he is not listed in section Climbers who have reached the summit of all eight-thousanders in Eight-thousander ? More, Italian Wiki has 15 people, who have reached the summit of all eight-thousanders. Who is right ? pjahr 06:30, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

It appears unclear but Everestnews.com has him succeeding on 13 eight-thousanders and that's already counting Makalu where he died. Looks to me like some of these websites have adjusted info to make it look like he did all 14. That's one thing we have to be careful about in this article, some of these climbers have come pretty close (within feet) of summits and even though they have not officially summited them they will still claim to have done so. JRWalko 02:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] British/English?

Why is George Band's nationality given as British, but Joe Brown's and Alan Hinkes' as English? They should all be listed as British - even if any of them have strong personal views on the subject, England is not an independent country while the UK is. 86.132.139.19 01:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I put those flags in because the article on one says he was an "English" mountaineer while the article on the other says he was a "British" mountaineer. I just figured the people who watch over their articles were better at determining what they're national identity was.JRWalko 03:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

Visit this page for more and exact stats. You are allowed to take some of them for wikipedia. Questions? This is my german page for discussions (you can write in english, I hope I can understand most of it ;-)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.228.65.231 (talk) 19:56, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tibet?

I'm sorry, but Tibet is not a country, whit all the respect that i have for de Dalai Lama and all. Tibet is now a region of China and the information must be changed. Some one disagree? Rakela 21:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Schoening

Listed as a first ascender of Gasherbrum I, but with no link to article about him. The name should be changed to "Pete Schoening" and linked to the article about him. He is very well known for "The Belay" and the story is related in the Pete Schoening page.69.158.157.227 (talk) 00:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)