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"Stuff their emotions away?" I doubt this is actually the current clinical thinking about eating disorders. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.38.147.116 (talk • contribs) 04:53, May 6, 2006 (UTC)

Why do people have eating disorders?

Although people say that the media has an influence, essentially it is a mental illness. Most interestingly, eating disorders are not generally found in non-western societies. A recent article in Newsweek noted that as Japan becomes more westernized, eating disorders are becoming more prevalent. --billlund 02:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

What should you do if you have an eating disorder?

Seek help immediately from competent medical care providers. This will not go away. It is not a life style. It is as dangerous to your life as drug addiction, whether you want to admit it or not. You will not be helped by others with an eating disorder. --billlund 02:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

What should you do if you know someone with an eating disorder?

Confront them immediately and encourage them to get competent medical help. Telling them to "just eat" accomplishes nothing. You are not the food police, but you can care and help them to get help. Don't let them put you off. Their life is in real danger. --billlund 02:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
I've responded as best I know how, but I don't see how this information can fit into an encyclopedia. --billlund 02:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

Is there any evidence that "Among the world's leaders in the treatment of eating disorders is Harry A. Brandt, MD."? Why then wouldn't his name appear later in the page as well? I fear this is an advert. --Crid 20:03, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't know whether it is meant as an advert, but either way I don't think the it is very useful information, so I'm deleting it. --JoanneB 16:00, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Adding a link

Sorry, I'm a bit new to Wikipedia, but I believe that I must post a link here before adding it to the main page.

My link is Somerset & Wessex Eating Disorders Association, I design and manage the site on a volunteer basis (being a recovered sufferer from anorexia and bulimia myself).

Although we are a rather localised charity I would hope that the information provided by the site would be useful to a much wider audience.

Our site address is www.swedauk.org

I appreciate that others may remove the listing if they don't feel that it's appropriate to be included here but I thought that I'd post in up just in case and have also done so in a few other eating disorder related articles.

I hope that this is ok. Feel free to email me if there's a problem (contact details are on the website).

With Kind Regards Paul

I think you have pointed out the weaknesses yourself, which make it less suitable for addition. It is geographically limited, not particularly authoratitive (the information is not vouched for by any professional organisation and hence open to error) and functions mainly as a messaging board. Under normal circumstances I'd remove this kind of link for the above reasons. Nevertheless, you were good enough to post this message so let's see if others think differently. JFW | T@lk 02:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
You make good points, however I think (1) the information being provided globally, and (2) that this is in extremely good faith, make the link valid for this particular article. While the information may not be vouched for by the scientific community ( or, more likely, simply not cited ), if the information is true, and likely to help someone looking into whether their behavior or that of a friend may qualify as an eating disorder, then it does far more good than harm, and should stay. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. FireWeed 20:03, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I can certainly accept that it's a localised service and if that marks it out as unsuitable and can accept that. I would hope though that it was a little more than a message board, although this is certainly provided.

I would also agree that that the matterial is not 'vouched' for by any specific organisation although there is a great deal of material around and I personally doubt whether anything can be considered truly 'authatitive'. There is a mixture of material written from personal perspective and some, including reasearch, written by experts in the field (at least recognised as such in the UK).

With all that said the site is a bit of an amatuer, one-man-band affair and I'm quite happy to accept the view of concensus if people feel that it's not appropriate (otherwise Wikepedia simply become a billboard for anyone wanting to promote their sites).

I appreciate the time taken to check the site out and any constructive feedback is always welcome.

With Kind Regards Paul

[edit] Proposed merge...

Food craving and eating disorders are medically incompatible conditions. An eating disorder is a compulsion that is driven by specific subconscious cues and miscues, which can lead to the diagnosis of a mental disorder.

Food craving is a physiological condition driven by the body's signal for a specific nutrient, for a specific reason. Mjformica 14:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

While some eating disorders may be associated with food cravings, a food craving in and of itself is NOT a signal of an eating disorder. Most people experience food cravings ranging from weak to intense during their lives with few to no ill effects. -- NO

DONT MERGE I find myself experiencing food cravings all the time. I skipped lunch yesterday, and was starved by dinner. This isn't a psychological disorder, though - simply a strong craving brought on by the body signalling the lack of food.
Also, some eating disorders - aniorexia - seem opposite of craving for food, so merging these articles would do more harm than good. FireWeed 20:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't merge. What FireWeed saiddick 16:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion

I don't see how hyperplasia or Kleine-Levin syndrome could be considered types of eating disorders. I can't say I'm familiar with either condition, but given the information on WP about them, it's pretty clear that one is a growth dysfunction and the other a sleep dysfunction-- neither seems remotely related to eating behaviors. Am I missing something? --Zeligf 04:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that you're missing anything. PsychINFO (which was called Silver Platter a million years ago, when I was at Columbia) is the researcher's standard for tracking stuff down in the social sciences. If it's in there, there must be a reason (assuming the individual who did the original search parsed it correctly). The question remains...why is it in there? Diagnostically, it makes no sense. I support your confusion.
I suspect ferreting out either (1) a mistake in the original search, or (2) figuring out why these would be included in this particular search return would be helpful. Unfortunately, PsychINFO is a subscriber service, and I no longer have an active subcription...anyone? --Sadhaka 14:09, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
PsychINFO yielded a list of "narrower" search terms for "eating disorder." The list did include Kleine-Levin syndrome. It did not include hyperplasia, but did include hyperphagia, which is also known as polyphagia- a term indicating excessive hunger and eating. So my guess is someone got their wires crossed somewhere and "hyperplasia" ended up in the list when they meant "hyperphagia." Nonetheless, I don't think hyperphagia is a type of eating disorder so much as a medical sign which may be indicative of an eating disorder.
A search for "eating disorder" and "Kleine-Levin" yielded eleven hits. Many of these indicated that binge eating (along with hypersexuality) is often a result of Kleine-Levin syndrome. I don't think that makes it a type of eating disorder, but there is at least a connection between the two conditions.
I also searched for "eating disorder" and "hyperplasia," just in case, and got seven results, four of which were relevant. Three were case studies; one linked bulimia nervosa to hyperplasia in the kidneys (along with other kidney damge) over time in a woman; one linked bulimia to a case tonsilitis in a 14 year old girl; the last linked anorexia nervosa to gastrointestinal hyperplasia in a man. The fourth hit speculated that a genetic tendency to hyperplasia in fat cells may predispose people to obesity. All in all, it seems there are a few anecdotal reports linking different eating disorders to hyperplasia in different types of cells, but this hardly makes hyperplasia a "type," or even a significant indicator, of an eating disorder. --Zeligf 15:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pica a well-known eating disorder?

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how Pica is the third most well-known eating disorder. It's just not true at all. Melange fiesta 17:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bulimarexia

This article is missing a major form of eating disorders. This should be added. -Yupik 12:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

That's just adding anorexia and bulimia together, and is generally used in pro ana /mia communities. Medically, it's known as anorexic with bulimic symptoms, or anorexia and bulimia. Srxcef 19:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prader-Willi Syndrome

Anyone think that this should be included? Srxcef 19:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Night Eating Disorder

I'm surprised this isn't already in the article, but since it's not, I'm about to act bold. Anybody who disagrees, please list your reasons here before you remove the changes I'm going to make; before I go and add this disorder, let me explain why I'm doing so.

First, see this link [1] to a news article announcing that night binging is officially recognized as an eating disorder. Second, I've been reading about the disorder in other medical texts lately, and there seems to be a consensus among the medical community that that's what this is. ( Also, I believe it describes a co-worker of mine, which is why I'm interested. ) Third, since this is clearly a psychological disorder, and is centered around food intake, it seems extremely appropriate for this article.

Night Eating Syndrome is when most of a person's regular food intake is after 9 or 10 pm, in their local time. These people usually eat very little throughout the day, probably in attempt to diet, and then take in as many as several thousand calories in a late night binge. Between 1 % and 2 % of the Western population are thought to be affected.

Finally, while the BBC article I linked to is poorly written ( "ever wake up and have a snack? you might be sick" ), this is a condition that applies to it's "victims" ( I'm sure there's a better word ) on a daily or almost daily basis. We've all had a late-night snack from time to time, and this is distinct from people who habitually eat half their calories when other people are winding down toward the end of their day or already asleep. What I'm trying to say is this is an actual disorder, as opposed to just an occasional behavior we all do from time to time that's not particularly healthy.

FireWeed 20:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Where does this leave people on permanent night-shift? or shift-workers generally. Does anyone have any info about this problem, because, from memory, I had a hard time eating properly when changing from a run of nights to a run of lates. ( Iused to be a Guard on British Rail.)dick 17:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Addition from the INSTITUE

Does the comment about "ZINC", attributed to a "DR. CAMI LEE MASON" from the "INSTITUE OF HIGHER LEARNING" seem suspicious to anyone else? It doesn't appear that the statement can be easily verified, since A) It was attributed to a person, rather than a publication, and B) It's not clear what the statement is trying to say in the first place (i.e. what does "This" refer to?). I have not made an edit since I'm unsure about what should happen here. If a statement is made that can't be verified using the cited source, but you can't personally disprove it, what's the protocol? 24.61.139.247 01:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that sentence struck me as weird (and sent me over to the Talk page to see if anyone else thought so too). Very bizarre, I don't know much about Wikipedia standards but it sounds odd to me. Stu21202 07:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Does anyone else think that the external links section is incredibly excessive? I could see links to a couple major eating disorder organisations, but this links to About.com's secion on eating disorders and various other small websites. I mean, there is a link to HOW OA groups, a subtype of Overeaters Anonymous! Does anyone else agree that we should prune this down? Celtic Labyrinth 02:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I just pruned it down, lol, when I saw a treatment center linked I knew I had to. If anyone objects please talk here about why and what links should be added. Celtic Labyrinth 02:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge Causes and mechanisms leading to eating disorders

This is very good information, and I think it would be more accessable in this article rather than in it's own. — Craigtalbert 19:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA)

I recently made the stub article National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA), to differentiate it from the National Educational Debate Association, and the National Electronic Distributors Association.

I was wondering if this is a legitimate group (really non-profit), and if there are other (better) groups for eating disorders. They claim to be the largest non-profit organization in the United States (non-profit in general or non-profit eating disorder group?). I'm sure someone here would know more about it and could help expand the article. This Is Their Website.

-Thanks
Tiki God 21:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)'

[edit] Citation style

I notice that this page has a {{Citation style}} warning on it. Is there any objection to my trying to clean this up? -- Boracay Bill 04:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Causes and Mechanisms

It mentions on the page that victims of, for example, sexual abuse will develop eating disorders to punish themselves because they feel worthless. This may be true as well, but another important reason why many victims of rape/abuse develop EDs is because they crave control. Rape/abuse makes the victim feel powerless, so many need to feel a sense of control - and many choose to control their food intake (leading to anorexia nervosa). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.207.111 (talk) 16:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adding a Link

I have added a link to a site containing many reference articles regarding eating disorders, how children are impacted by eating disorders, and what parents can do to help. I think the link adds value to the article by referring interested readers to children specific references and will give parents an outlet to find additional information. The resources are also very reputable, with information from the Dept. of Ed, NYU Child Study Center, Kids Health, and others.

I have spent 15 years in education and know when a parent is confronting an eating disorder, the more information they have, the better off they will be. I have also been a consultant with this reference website, helping to build out their collection of resources.

To avoid any kind of conflict of interest and maintain the integrity of the article, I would like to get your opinion. Please take a look at the information on the site and leave your feedback here as to the value it adds to the article.

Educator08 (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add links to sites produced by your employer. Thanks. - Ehheh (talk) 17:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I realize we disagree on this, but I would like to get feedback from other editors. Again, working with the website, especially a non-commercial website, does not automatically preclude contributions from that website which add value and enhance the article.

Any other opinions:

http://www.education.com/reference/topic/KeepingKidsHealthy_SpecialNeeds_EatingDisorders/

Educator08 (talk) 18:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] bulimia

Aren´t people with bulimia eating like normal people, and then throwing up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.162.126.86 (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)