Talk:Eastern Nagari script

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[edit] Alphabet Table

Let us first prepare the list of the scripts here, once finished, we can put it in the article-page.

Also, we should probably mention that the three scripts are the modern standards, in current use. Chaipau 18:58, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Vowel Table

Symbol	Assamese	Bengali	Bishnupriya Manipuri[1]	Meithei Manipuri[2], [3], [4]
অ	ô/o	ô/o	a	a
আ	a	a	ā	â
ই	i	i	i	i
ঈ	i	i	ī	î
এ	e/ê	e/ê	e	e
ঐ	ôi	oi	ai	ei/ai
উ	u	u	u	u
ঊ	u	u	ū	û
ঋ	ri	ri	ri/ŗ	?
ৠ	-	-	-	-
ঌ	-	-	-	?
ৡ	-	-	-	-
ও	o/å	o	o	o/ô
ঔ	ôu	ou	au	ou/au

I don't think ই and ঈ are pronounced differently in Assamese. Chaipau 18:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Same with Bengali. No need for those accent marks. --SameerKhan 12:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Consonant Table

Symbol	Assamese	Bengali	Bishnupriya Manipuri[5]	Meithei Manipuri[6], [7], [8]
ক	k	k	k	k
খ	kh	kh	kh	kh
গ	g	g	g	g
ঘ	gh	gh	gh	gh
ঙ	ng	ng	η/ng	ng
চ	s	ch	c∫/ch	ch
ছ	s	chh	chh	?
জ	z	j	j	j
ঝ	jh	jh	jh	jh
ঞ	y	n	ñ	?
ট	t	ţ	ţ	?
ঠ	th	ţh	ţh	?
ড	d	đ	đ	?
ড়	ŗ	ŗ	ŗ/r	?
ঢ	dh	đh	đh	?
ঢ়	ŗh	ŗh	ŗh	?
ণ	n	n	n/ņ	?
ত	t	t	t	t
থ	th	th	th	th
দ	d	d	d	d
ধ	dh	dh	dh	dh
ন	n	n	n	n
প	p	p	p	p
ফ	ph	f	ph/f	ph/f
ব	b	b	b	b
ভ	bh	bh	b'/bh	bh
ম	m	m	m	m
য	z	j	j	?
য়	y	e/Ø	y	y
র	-	r	r	r
ৰ	r	-	r	-
ল	l	l	l	l
ৱ	w	-	w/v	w
শ	x/s	sh/s	ŝ	s
ষ	x/s	sh	ş	?
স	x/s	sh/s	s	s
হ	h	h	h	h
ক্ষ	khy	kkh	kkh	?

N/U = not used. The table is not finished yet, feel free to fill it up. -Bikram98 06:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Who can help us in the Manipuri part? Also, is these enough? Or, we can also include the name of the aphabets (as they are currently in the respective language pages)? - Bikram98 20:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Usingha is probably the only Bishnupriya/Manipuri speaking wikipedian ... he can help in this. --Ragib 06:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, the table looks almost complete. Can we transfer it to the article page? Another point, before arrival of the Christian Missionaries, many other langauges used this scripts, like Bodo, Garo, Khasi, Mishing, Karbi etc. I am trying to find out references to support this point, but without much success. Would appreciate if you find any source. - Bikram98 18:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Why is ক্ষ listed as a consonant? It is a compound letter (jukthakkhor), created by adding ক+ষ. --Ragib 18:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Apparently it's considered a separate letter in Assamese. --SameerKhan 04:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Sameer is correct. ক্ষ is not a jukthakkhor in Assamese, rather a consonant and is placed just before ড় (followed by ঢ়,য়) in standard textbooks. - Bikram98 05:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's interesting. This is exactly why we needed the status quo set of articles :) Nice to know this. --Ragib 05:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe the use of compound letters is a major difference among the languages. Inputs on this would be helpful too. Chaipau 11:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I corrected Bishnupriya Manipuri part according to "An Etymological Dictionary of Bishnupriya Manipuri" by: Dr. K. P. Sinha, Published by: Punthi Pustak, Calcutta, 1986. Also I suggest adding some more alphabets:

Extended Consonant Table

Symbol	Assamese	Bengali	Bishnupriya Manipuri	Meithei Manipuri
ঃ				?
ৎ				?
ঁ				?
জ্ঞ			gy/jñ	?

Thanks.--Usingha 13:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Cut- and paste redirect

I realized afterwards that my attempt to move 'Eastern Nagari script' to 'Eastern Nāgarī script' was perhaps a bit overenthousiastic, and constitutes a Cut and Paste move which is considered bad. My apologies for this! Personally I think it's the best to have 'Eastern Nāgarī script' as title, in accord with e.g. titles such as 'Devanāgarī', and have 'Eastern Nagari' as a redirect. For now I copied the old talk page to the new page, but if anyone is willing to revert my mistake and properly move the article (which I am unable to do, as I am a non-admin), please do so! Joost (talk) 16:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I disagree that "Eastern Nāgarī script" is a better name for this article. Neither Bengali nor Assamese follow this romanization scheme in this wiki. I suggest we revert. Chaipau (talk) 19:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Chaipau on this. If we wanted to be true to the pronunciation of the languages that use the Eastern Nagari script, we should write Nagôri (for Assamese speakers) or Nagori (for Bengali speakers). Neither language has a vowel length distinction, or a schwa-vowel, so there's no real reason to use the macrons. --SameerKhan (talk) 21:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)