Talk:East Coast-West Coast hip hop rivalry

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[edit] L.A., L.A.

Isn't the East Coast-West Coast rivalry wider than Death Row and Bad Boy? I think it extends to C-N-N's "L.A., L.A.". Tim Ivorson 11:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No Mention Of...

This article did not mention 2Pac's ties tp the east coast. Not only was he born in New York and lived in Baltimore as a child, but before he died, he tried created Death Row East. Death Row East was a branch of Death Row that was going to include East Coast rappers such as Big Daddy Kane, Wu-Tang Clan and DJ Eric B.

This article does not mention if any beefs such as 2Pac's beef with NaS were resolved before his death.

This article does not mention that Biggie and 2Pac were friends before 1996 (I believe) and that they even did a track together called "Runnin'" when they were alive which was later remixed by Eminem fotr the soundtrack of Pac's movie Resurrection.

[edit] Needs A Clean Up

This whole page is very messy. The issue of the rivalry are not well set out, nor is the background. For instance many people in the west coast felt that new york, particularly the critics, never gave their artists the respect they gave east coast act. The 2pac/Biggie issue just broke the camel's back. Furthermore I think this stub could be expanded to look at the wider implications of the feud that exist to this day.

Agreed. This is a decent article, but it does have a slight east coast bias, and the sentence referring to Tupac joining Death Row Records and "openly slandering" Bad Boy is definitely something with a distinct east coast POV LoganRage 13:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nas and 2Pac

From what I remembered, 'Pac assumed Nas dissed him on "The Message", when he said "Fake thug, no love, you get the slug", not from a freestyle. Pac and Nas did reslove their fued before his death, but he would die days later, making it impossible to remove "Bomb First" and "Against All Odds".

I'm going to add this info, and add the respective sources as well.

[edit] NPOV

There seems to be a slight favoring of East Coast (Reffering to Notorious B.I.G as Biggie through the article), I think someone should take a good look at the article soon. I would but i'm pushed for time just now

†he Bread 03:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] An edit

Edited a few of the blurbs about which rappers were involved. For instance, it was 2Pac's anti-East Coast and calling out of East Coast rappers in interviews that led to Cool J's verse in the "I Shot Ya" remix, which is one battle 2Pac was supposedly told not to pursue, as LL's battle record was legendary. I've edited a few others for accuracy, as there can be biases in these types of articles. ThePacMan 23:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] East-West differences

It would be nice if this article would discuss some more of the East-West differences beyond simply the geography of where the artist was from or the label that was located in each place. Could discuss differences prevailing in styles or traditions, affiliations...

24.128.62.196 08:32, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inconsistency

Nas is listed under both "Participants - East coast" and "Participants - Opposing artists". Given everything I know about it, it seems "East coast" is the more appropriate.

[edit] Bracketed word in quotes?

What's with the quote talking about the Death Row/Bad Boy standoff referring to "the [ninja] version of the Cuban Missile Crisis"? I'm tempted to replace "ninja" with "censored" since "ninja" makes no sense here.

[edit] end of feud section innacurate

I'm fairly sure that the newspapers didn't refer to the situation exactly as described here. Probably some graffiti.

[edit] What a Load of Nonsense

Errr, the people who wrote this article do realise that all these gangsta personas that gangsta rappers adopt are just to sell records, don't they? What, you think if Snoop Dogg really went around shooting people that he'd sing about it in his songs? My God, I'm amazed at the gullibility of some people.

After Tupac was murdered, there was an interview with a friend of Tupac's in the TV guide. I can't remember the exact words, but this is pretty close:

"It was just an act [the gangster image], a media thing..."

She had warned him to be careful and said to him "sooner or later you're going to piss someone off."

Holymolytree2 23:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Chino XL

The lyric in question was "by this industry, I'm trying not to get fucked like 2Pac in jail." I don't think he was in fact poking fun at 2Pac. He was saying he is trying not to get fucked by the industry, just as Pac was trying not to get fucked in jail. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.24.242 (talk) 02:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DMX

This is not true DMX and Kurupt fued did not start until the late 1990s a few years after the East vs. West. Mcanmoocanu 15:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Burn Hollywood Burn

does Burn Hollywood Burn from public enemy have anything to do with this