Talk:Earl of Perth
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Has the 18th Earl of Perth a son? His eldest one would have the courtesy title Viscount Strathallan. I have found no children of the 18th earl. --VM 18:48, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
He has two sons (James David, Viscount Strathallan, and Robert Eric) and one daughter (Annabella Margaret)
[edit] Attainder
"Often, those who claimed the title after the attainder but before its reversal are excluded from the numbering. However, such persons are, because the attainder was completely reversed, technically Earls of Perth, and therefore are here included in the numbering."
I have removed as this is not correct. Reversal of attainder has no impact on intermediate heirs. They are not deemed in law to have held or been capable of holding any title under attainder. The writer may be confusing dormantcy where later recognition does retrospectively number all previous 'holders'. Alci12 13:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, and thus the numbering here is wrong. The "18th Earl" is actually the 9th Earl, and the "5th Earl" to the "13th Earl" weren't Earls of Perth at all. (This is all seeming very familiar, for some unknown reason...) Proteus (Talk) 14:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I did smile but I have a slight concern. Burkes Cockaynes and Cracrofts disagree here 2-1 in favour of what we would expect. It could be just error but I would like to know why Alci12 15:58, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I'd trust Cracroft's over Burke's or the CP any day. (And Burke's just slavishly copies the CP anyway, even in its obvious errors like the territorial designation business, so they can't really be called two separate sources.) Proteus (Talk) 16:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well when we do renumber, do you think we should break out the 'dukedom' to a jacobite peerage entry on its own. As this mixing of genuine and assumed titles is probably not helpful.Alci12 16:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
