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[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 10

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 10 7 July 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State updates
Project news Kentucky subproject promoted California
Deletion debates AID restructuring Maryland
Featured member GA status Pennsylvania
From the editors Notability discussion currently collecting dust
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
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[edit] Wikimedia Pennsylvania

Hello there!

I'm writing to inform you that we are now forming the first local Wikimedia Chapter in the United States: Wikimedia Pennsylvania. Our goals are to perform outreach and fundraising activities on behalf of the various Wikimedia projects. If you're interested in being a part of the chapter, or just want to know more, you can:

Thanks and I hope you join up! Cbrown1023 talk 03:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I-95 Delaware

Go ahead! When I get a chance which will probably be sometime later tonight, I'm going to bring up state-specific articles of long Interstates on the talk page and we'll figure something out. --MPD T / C 18:17, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of All USRD Clean-up Templates

All of the USRD Clean-up Templates have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. master sonT - C 16:45, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An important letter

Dear roads editor,

You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing.

This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors.

After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation.

The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us.

In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification.

For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness.

In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests.

All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD.

In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have.

Regards,

Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:06, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 11

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 11 18 August 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State and national updates
Project news Cleanup system revamped Assessment
Deletion debates Stubs renamed New York
Featured member IRC channel goes global
From the editors Minnesota bridge collapses
One year after SRNC: A reflection
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.Rschen7754bot 21:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cologne Cathedral

Please use the preview button to check the effect. You can't jam something as large as the height box into an article without disrupting the whole thing.

That box contains one highly qualified and arguably misleading piece of information. It is nowhere near as signifcant as the UNESCO World Heritage box. I personally don't believe that a single piece of no-longer relevant info like that ought to be given such signifcance. It not encyclopedic. This is not Guiness Book of records or Ripley's believe it or not. I can't comprehend why a buzz-word "TALLEST! WOW!" is given such signicance when it was in fact only briefly significant. There is far more to Cologne Cathedral than that.

After discussion, the box was put at its current location. It is possible, by rearranging things, to shove it in below the other box, but not in the way that you did it. If it goes in, then the illustrations which have been carefully selected to illustrate the text will have to go. We can't have both. They wont fit. The pragmatic decision was to put the least significant fact at the bottom.

Why do I say that it's the least significant? Well, The box is specifically about "habitable" buildings. If you accept the dates, then you have to discount the fact that Cologne was surpassed by both the Washington Monument and the Eiffel Tower. The question the arises... Is the openwork spire of Cologne Cathedral really more habitable than the Eiffell Tower? There is actually a large enclosed space on the first level of the Eiffel Tower which is quite habitable. So whi is one considered to be habitable "right to the top of the structure" and the other isn't? It's a moot point! But this is what the box is about.

The realities are that Cologne Cathedral was the world's tallest structure for several years. (But the box doesn't say that). It briefly had the tallest church spires until surpassed by Ulm and still has the second tallest.

This stuff is all a bit like saying that the world's largest Cathedral is ...Washington, I think... OK! To be perfectly pedantic it's true! WOW! I hear... "Does that mean it's even bigger than Saint Peter's in Rome?" .... No it doesn't mean that at all. But (here's the catch... St Peter's is not actually a cathedral ...it's a basilica... so Ya!) That's why I can't stand this sort of crap that compares the sizes of things in a stupid meaningless way. As an Art Historian, it means nothing to me.

It goes like this- Lincoln Cathedral and Old St Pauls both had spires that were about as tall as those on Ulm and Cologne. Who can say, and who really gives a damn whether one was two feet taller? They were both around 550 feet and both stood for several hundred years. If someone had dumped a load of coal near St Paul's it would be two feet shorter. If someone excavated a drainage ditch near Lincoln, it would be two feet taller. So what?

Salisbury Cathedral, as you probably know, has the talllest spire in England. Oh, its 100 feet shorter than Cologne and Ulm! But how magnificent! It is built, not of openwork like the German Cathedrals, or of wood with lead roofing, but of masonry, 400( and something) feet of ashlar masonry towering into the sky. Now that's impressive! But to tell the truth, I've never bothered to check to see if it is in fact the tallest masonry spire in the world. It just might be... The question is, does it justify a box which says so?

Now there's another case... Chartres. Some writers claim that the later of its two mismatched spires is the most beautiful spire in the world. Nonsense! say other writers. It's the older spire that is superb! It is definitely the finest Early Gothic spire anywhere. ... They might both be right of course, but "most beautiful" is entirely POV and definitely doesn't warrant a box.

Yeah, well anyway... you see what I'm waffling on about...

cheers! --Amandajm 16:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Geography of NJ COTW

I've nominated Geography of New Jersey for the article improvement drive. Support would be great for it. -ZeWrestler Talk 22:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NJSCR Newsletter 5 =

The New Jersey State and County Route Newsletter
Issue 5August 25, 2007

Issue #5

After a two-month hiatus, the fifth issue of the WP:NJSCR newsletter is out, by me, Mitchazenia.

Project News
  • The wikiproject has been inactive since June! Please try to start working on their articles again.
  • A to-do list has been posted on the project page, with a more detailed version at WT:NJSCR#To-do list. The simple version:
    • Ensure that all freeway exit lists are up to exit list guide standards.
    • Make sure all infoboxes have the new maint= parameter.
    • Make sure the straight line diagram is properly referenced in the infobox.
    • Add a major intersections table to each article.
Member of the Month
  • There is no member of the month this issue.
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[edit] State name on MD interstate shields

A discussion is underway on this topic at WT:MDRD. Your input is appreciated. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 22:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 12

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 12 • September 1, 2007About the Newsletter
Departments
Features
State and national updates
ArchivesNewsroomFull IssueShortcut: WP:USRD/NEWS
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.Rschen7754bot 22:16, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pinellas County Roads table

I see you're in the process of adding a table for the List of county roads in Pinellas County, Florida. You should add a column for notes. ---- DanTD 16:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Also you should know that Pinellas CR 501 was extended north to Klosterman Road(Pinellas CR 880), on August 28, 2007(http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=62049), (http://www.tbnweekly.com/content_articles/082607_fpg-01.txt). ---- DanTD 19:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 13

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 13 • September 15, 2007About the Newsletter
Departments
Features
State and national updates
ArchivesNewsroomFull IssueShortcut: WP:USRD/NEWS
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.Rschen7754bot 19:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You helped choose Geography of New Jersey as this week's WP:ACID winner

Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive.
This week Geography of New Jersey was selected to be improved to featured article status.
Hope you can help.

--ZeWrestler Talk 19:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Inactivity check and news report

Hello, EaglesFanInTampa. We had a few urgent matters to communicate to you:

  1. Please update your information at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Participants, our new centralized participant list. Those who have not done so by October 20th will be removed.
  2. There are important discussions taking place at WT:USRD relating to whether WP:USRD, WP:HWY, or the state projects should hold the "power" in the roads projects.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 23:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 14

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 14 • September 30, 2007About the Newsletter
Departments
Features
State and national updates
ArchivesNewsroomFull IssueShortcut: WP:USRD/NEWS
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[edit] WP:NJSCR Newsletter 6

The New Jersey State and County Route Newsletter
Issue 6October 1, 2007

Issue #6

The 6th edition of the WP:NJSCR newsletter. This one will hopefully start a monthly streak of newsletters.

Project News
  • Many articles are starting to reach Start and B-class.
  • A to-do list has been posted on the project page, with a more detailed version at WT:NJSCR#To-do list. The simple version:
    • Ensure that all freeway exit lists are up to exit list guide standards.
    • Make sure all infoboxes have the new maint= parameter.
    • Make sure the straight line diagram is properly referenced in the infobox.
    • Add a major intersections table to each article.
Member of the Month
Mlaurenti
  • The member of the month for this edition is User:Mlaurenti. He joined in March of 2006 and has been a worker ever since. Works include starting the Garden State Parkway's exit list. Thanks for all your hard work, Mlaurenti!
Want to help on the next newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it transcluded next time? – It's all here.Mitch32contribs 01:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)