Talk:Eagle feather law

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[edit] All Eagles or Only Bald & Golden Eagles ?

Although the Eagle feather law article uses the generic term "eagle" throughout, just a quick look at the summaries of the laws refered to suggests that it is only feathers of bald eagles and golden eagles, which is restricted - not feathers of the other species of eagles which is restricted. Does anyone happen to know if there are restrictions on possession of the feathers of other species of eagles, and if so what the source of that restriction is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.203.62.4 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 31 October 2006

Yes. Accoring to 50 CFR 22, a permit is required for any migratory bird. Similarly, all migratory birds are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. This goes for bald as well as golden eagles. Per international treaties it is also extended to eagles from other countries, which are, by these treaties, forbidden from import. Additionally, per 50 CFR 22, a permit is required for non-eagle migratory birds, such as hawks, falcons, owls, evn geese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.91.229 (talk • contribs) 00:19, 4 February 2007

Also, don't forget that even non-migratory birds are redefined as migratory so they can be covered under this all-encompassing law. Permits are seldom given. If you live in the US, the only wild birds / bird parts you may legally possess under most circumstances are non-native birds, which essentially means European starlings, house sparrows, and pigeons. EthanL (talk) 09:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where the Eagles Gather

One interpretation of the Biblical statement that "Where the Eagles gather, there the Body will be" is that location of a gathering of Eagles is the location of the 2nd Coming of Christ. Ref. Mathew 24: 38 & Luke 17: 37

Can citizens possess eagle feathers obtained at this most HOLY location ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.247.22.112 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 26 December 2006

No. Anyone who wishes to possess eagle feathers must obtain a permit. This is according to 50 CFR 22. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.91.229 (talk • contribs) 00:19, 4 February 2007

I doubt it would matter in this situation! But what does that have to do with possession of eagle feathers? The Bible says nothing about feathers or their possession in that verse. EthanL (talk) 01:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison of Religious Significance

The statement is made: "The eagle feather may play a comparable role to Native American religions as the crucifix plays to the Christian religion or the Koran to the Islamic religion."

Unfortunately, this is not totally accurate. Catholics hold the crucifix as significant, but many other Christians, such as Protestants, would reject such a blanket statement. The reverance toward the Koran in Islam is mentioned, but not the similar reverance toward the Bible by Christians. Comparing a book with a feather is not too helpful. Eliminating this statement. EthanL (talk) 01:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

While the statement that the feathers play a comparable role may not be accurate, the author might have been getting at something more general that is accurate, namely that eagle feathers have been compared to christian objects like the bible and crucifix. The comparison is not made in reference to their role (e.g. one does not literally "read" an eagle feather), but rather the centrality and importance of the feathers within indigenous customs and ways of life.

Many Native American people would and have compared eagle feathers with the Bible and crucifix. It is great to speak to other Native people to confirm this, but for online references of eagle feathers being compared to christian religious objects, see following articles for quick examples:

http://www.newschannel5.tv/2006/3/30/7039/Eagle-feathers-confiscated-

http://www.stevenbodzin.com/shtml/clips/eagle.shtml

http://www.main.nc.us/wncceib/ACT111498.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.84.192 (talk • contribs) 02:29, 19 May 2007

I understand the reasoning behind the statement. However, the examples used were less than helpful. The religious significance of eagle feathers is quite well stated in the article, even without the comparison. Feel free to contribute a better example. EthanL (talk) 06:43, 7 June 2007 (UTC)