Talk:Dynamics (music)
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[edit] Super LOOOOOOOUUUUUUD
Do ffffffffffff and/or pppppppppp exist and if so how loud are they? (OK I admit... now I'm being plain stupid) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.129.156.144 (talk) 03:43, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lacking
This article is written quite well, but there are literally dozens of musical dyanmic types not described here, most of them rather prominent. Also, this article does not mention baroque dynamics (which were normally not written out, left to the discretion of the performer) and dynamics on gentle instruments such as the harpsichord. John Holly 16:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neologism
"Fortississimo" and "pianississimo"?? I thought these were jokes that band directors made up. Unless someone indicates otherwise, I'll shortly be refining this article to indicate that those are facetious words.
UPDATE: Refinement done. Any objections?
SFT 07:52, 2004 Oct 23 (UTC)
these are not jokes, maybe neologisms. But you have to say them somehow. This article doesn't mention stuff like: Fermata = to hold as long as desired. Rf. (Rinforzando) = to stress by strength, as opposed to Sfz. (Sforzando) = to stress by pushing, by pressure. Dol. (Dolce) = to play sweetly Smorz poco a poco = to grow softer(?) little by little.
those should be in this article cause like Crescendo (written or as symbol ) should be here. so this is a stub IMHO -- Nkour 14:03, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Those aren't dynamics. Dolce and smorz (???) are just musical directions, as are fermata. You might get away with mentioning rf and sfz, but those are more articulationy. SFT | Talk 09:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
SFT is correct on this. Quantumobserver (talk) 03:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 1812 Overture
Recent addition to the article in bold:
- Tchaikovsky indicated pppppp and ffff in passages of his Pathétique symphony and in the 1812 Overture.
I can't verify that this is wrong, but I am somewhat incredulous that Tchaikovsky would use both five ps and four fs in two separate pieces. Can someone with access to a score verify or debunk this?
- Doesn't surprise me, Tchaikovsky had a flair for melodrama. Though it wouldn't hurt to check a score, I suppose. Volunteer Sibelius Salesman 19:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, he was melodramatic but also a superb craftsman who knew what he was doing. For all their brazenness the first and fourth movements of Symphony no 4 both start ff only. In both movements he is reserving fff for later on. In Symphony no 6 he writes pppp just before the coda in the first movement (starting with double basses in bar 325) and at the very end of the symphony. And he uses ffff at bar 312 of the third movement. After all, he was about to commit suicide, wasn't he?
I haven't got the score of 1812 to hand. Hikitsurisan 22:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- See [1], page 79. Stannered 12:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- And [2], page 19, second system, bassoon line. Stannered 13:00, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Articles being merged
I'm all for them to be merged, and I think mezzo piano etc need doing too.
ME TOO!!! ;-)
Done Conrad Irwin 23:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Details!!!!!!!!!
What is up with saying piano is soft and forte is loud? Most people need details. If anyone has even more than that , I'd like to here it. It is needed for anyone and everyone who doesn't have a clue!
How would you propose adding more detail? For example, a p sung by an opera singer is probably louder than a f from a violin. They are all totally relative quantities and so I think we have given virtually all we can. Conrad Irwin 23:59, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Nothing stopping us from adding audio samples of an Opera singer male and female hitting the pitches at certain volumes.--I'll bring the food (Talk - Contribs - My Watchlist) 02:18, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Difference between two terms
Can someone explain to me the difference between calando and crescendo, as they're both described as "becoming softer"?80.114.26.224 07:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
