Talk:Dying Earth subgenre

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Not really sure that Cordwainer Smith's "Instrumentality" belongs here -- in the Instrumentality of Mankind universe, there are wars followed by thousands of years of history, which make almost all our current cultural references utterly irrelevant to future people, but nothing is really "dying". AnonMoos 04:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trimming Examples

Maybe the "examples" should be limited to those which knowledgable sources have identified? The Notebooks page is not authoratative in any way. Or at least the short descrition should say WHY is is considered Dying Earth. At the moment some of them specifically say they are not DE!

Many of the current ones are simply far future SF - Not set on a planet which is reduced due to entropy or even apathy. I try to remove those i've read (Eg. the Instumentality mentioned above), and do some research on others....Yobmod (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

and here i keep a list of books i'm certain of, as i search for references:

Jack Vance - Tales of the Dying Earth

Gene Wolfe - The Book of the New Sun

William Hope Hodgson - The House on the Borderland & The Night Land

Clark Ashton Smith - Zothique stories

Brian Aldiss - Hothouse

Damien Broderick, ed. — Earth is But a Star

C. J. Cherryh — Sunfall

Arthur C. Clarke — The City and the Stars

Philip Jose Farmer - In Dark Is the Sun

Edmond Hamilton — The City at World's End (1951) Edmond Hamilton —"Superman Under the Red Sun" from Action Comics #300 (1963).

Michael Moorcock — The Dancers at the End of Time series.

Michael Shea — A Quest for Simbilis

Yobmod (talk) 10:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

and the next 2 i will remove, unless someone disagrees:

Robert Silverberg — Nightwings. Is this Dying Eath, i'm quite sure it is a far future (with vibrant society!)and alien invasion.

The Einstein Intersection - Delany. The Earth is not dying, the replacment of humans with aliens is only the interperetion of one character (i think they are mutants). Society is reduced due lingering radiation from a nuclear war, not from entropy or apathy. 134.169.58.89 (talk) 10:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested move

I propose this article be moved to Dying Earth or Dying Earth (subgenre) as "Dying Earth subgenre" is not the name of anything and controverts Wikipedia's naming conventions. Skomorokh ^incite 09:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)