Talk:Dumnonia

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[edit] Cover?

Did Dumnonia cover Cornwall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.195.86.36 (talk • contribs)

This information is given in the article Walgamanus 08:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dumnonia & Cornwall.

There has been a tradition of trying to find evidence for the seperation of Cornwall from the rest of England for centuries. In many cases this is entirely valid, however this is not the place to discuss such matters. Through both Roman organisation, and the post roman kingdom on dumnonia, Cornwall formed an itegral part. Tintagel is a far larger settlement with far more importeded high status objects than anywhere else in the southwest, even south cadbury, which leads it to be a lgical capital for the kingdom.

Although there is literature, such as that done by Charles Thomas concerning roamn subcantons and sub kingdoms for conrwall, there is no archaeological or historical evidence to back this up, and if anything the evidence points to the contrary. Charles Thomas infact had to borrow the term sub-canton from its post medieval Swiss usage, hardly a comparable source.

Only after the Kingdom of dumnonii was eroded down to an area highly comparable to modern day cornwall can we talk about cornwall in an a seperate sense. Further assimilation by Wessex into tthe region halted by the Norman Conquest and a policy of divide and conquer..

I therefore propose that is inaccurate to refer to Cornwall as a seperate entitiy in this article, but instead highlight its importnace in the Kingdom of Dumnonia.

For more information:

The Archaeology of Cornwall, by Dr Caradoc Peters, Cornwall Editions.

A History of Cornwall, Philip Payton, Cornwall Editions.

Beware of outdated or unsorced areas in these books:

Celtic Britian, Charles Thomas, Thames and Hudson.

F E Halliday, A History of Cornwall, House of Stratus.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.136.31.72 (talk) 16:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Cadbury Castle

Cadbury Castle, ie the hill fort at South Cadbury Somerset, is generally considered to be in the territory of the Durotriges. There is a Cadbury in Devon but this is a different hillfort. Adresia 09:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)