Talk:Drinking culture

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[edit] This sentence

Is hilariously bad:

"University students have a reputation for engaging in binge drinking, especially in the USA and even more so in the UK and Ireland, as well as generally throughout Northern Europe, Canada and Australia; participants include university athletes, fraternities, and sororities, particularly after final examinations, varsity wins and during spring break."

Especially in the USA, but even MORE especially in every other country... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.64.69.67 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alcohol Tolerance

Under "binge drinking", this sentence doesn't entirely ring true to me:

The major exception to this generalization is that of alcohol tolerance in alcoholics who develop tolerance for the effects of alcohol. Therefore, an alcoholic who is legally intoxicated may show no clinical signs of intoxication.

It implies that a person with a blood alcohol level of, say, 0.15% will be perfectly capable of handling a motor vehicle so long as he is an established alcoholic. This flies in the face of research and experience -- that kind of person merely THINKS he's OK to drive. Guernseykid 07:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

That's an excellent edit by David Justin. Guernseykid 17:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Guernseykid.David Justin 01:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other talk

Given its continuing popularity today and the failure of most Prohibitions, it is presumed that the act of drinking will remain a part of human life interminably.

The above sentence, even with the "it is presumed that" that I added, could be seen as speculation. Can anyone suggest an improvement? --Sam

  • Changed to "...drinking may remain a part of human life" Andy Mabbett 11:47, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I prefer, "...drinking may remain a part of human nature." There is some evidence that intoxication is part of an unconsicous psychological drive to alter consciousness. Animals will intoxicate themselves in the wild, so perhaps some comments on animal behavior would be appropriate as well. --Viriditas 09:50, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

To quench thirst? The article is talking specifically about drinking alcohol, so I'm not sure if that really applies. Cogibyte 16:46, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

  • You've never had a cold beer on a hot day? How unfortunate! Andy Mabbett 17:35, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure binge drinking and drinking to get drunk are wholly synonymous. The former implies sort of a college student style "lots of shots of vodka in a small period of time", while the latter can be done in manners that aren't as binge-like. For example, many people go to bars intending to get drunk, but having, say, seven or eight beers over the course of an evening isn't really the same as "binge drinking", at least in the sense I understand the two terms. Perhaps usage elsewhere varies from what I'm accustomed to? --Delirium 21:45, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

Some of this article smacks of Original research, which is specifically against the encyclopedic standards of wikipedia. Will someone please revise? (or else I will have to) Example: Similarly, free drinks can assume an almost mystical status in the minds of everyday people, who are accustomed to paying for their drinks. Is this a commonly known fact? Are you Jane Goodall making observations of drinkers? User:MPS

Yes, an article on free drinks that was at least 50% a joke was merged here. I removed a lot of the especially silly stuff, but the text still needs a good revision. Everyking 20:02, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
"people drink for one of five reasons" While I like the 'five reasons' classification, I wonder whether this is just made up. I personally think there are six reasons.User:MPS

[edit] Have any Dutch wikipedians actually heard of this custom?

"A free drink is often a way of saying thank you as well. In Canadian culture it is a well known fact that when in a bar in Holland, the natives will often buy Canadians free drinks for the role their nation played in liberating their country during World War II. This is often thought to be one of the reasons why many Americans wear the Canadian flag while on vacation in Europe."

I agree, sounds like bullshit.

[edit] Article merge

I have merged the article Alcohol expectancies into this one. aliceinlampyland 11:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC).

[edit] (OED, American Heritage Dictionary)

Clean up the reference please.100110100 04:45, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I hate people who drink alcohol.

All of them are horrible, sick-minded people who ignore every aspect of their health. As a person who doesn't drink, I am truly offended that people would take the time to shorten their lifespans. These people need to just fucking die.--72.65.197.105 23:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hahah, this guy just never quits. --Liface 02:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Time for a pint...Gareth E Kegg 09:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Those sorts of insulting generalisations have no place here. I know plenty of people who drink alcohol, yet keep an eye on their diet and perform such regular exercises as jogging, swimming etc. To say that they are "sick-minded people who ignore every aspect of their health" is therefore, if I may say so, fucking barmy. Plus, your accusation that they should all just die removes any validity from your argument, and you lose the right to push your opinion here. Iwan Berry 14:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] it is an addiction

I deleted 'so called' from in front of 'addiction' at the beginning of the second section. Alcoholism is absolutely an addiction - it alters your brain chemistry, and to say it's only a so-called addiction sounds like the ramblings of an alcoholic in denial. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.58.73.221 (talk) 15:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
Prove it.--68.9.238.59 (talk) 03:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CHASER

ive always found it used to describe a weaker drink following a stronger one - but apparently its not. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.25.45 (talk) 09:21, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

i edited this section (my first edit) with a reference to merriam-webster, which clearly indicates that a weak drink chases a strong one. Timothy.lucas.jaeger (talk) 06:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Purpose of drinking

This section is pretty ridiculous. The "Purpose of drinking"...?!

Well anyway I read somewhere [citation needed] that in the middle ages alcoholic drinks provided a degree of safety against water-bourne diseases (e.g. cholera) due to the antiseptic property of alchohol and were drunk for this reason. This "purpose" is probably as valid as any other in the list. 68.101.160.213 (talk) 03:45, 28 February 2008 (UTC)