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Contents 1 Trivia 2 Cruel Bob 3 Dont Look Back 4 Dylan arguing with Donovan? 5 Re-release info 6 Ginger Baker 7 I'm Not There

[edit] Trivia

I added a Trivia Section based on some information seeming out of place with the rest of the article. I also reverted the title back to the original "Don't Look Back". Although it is obvious that the original cover says "DONT", I have not been able to find anything to substantiate the claim that it is for "linguistic efficiancy". If I am wrong, please feel free to change it back after citing a legitimate source. I did leave in the mention of the original title leaving out the apostrophe, but I moved it under trivia. The current title is listed as "Don't Look Back" on virtually every movie listing on the internet.

-Datapharmer

[edit] Cruel Bob

The article as written makes it sound like Dylan's only shown beating up on people. In fact, he's charming through much of the film, even in scenes where he's famously being "difficult" (the Time reporter scene, the "science student" scene); and he's never shown snubbing Baez. (The history books says he did, but you don't see it in the movie.) It's that mix of confidence/cockiness and charm that makes him, and the movie, interesting and attractive. I'll amend, if there are no objections.

Dylan and Nieuwirth are shown giving Baez a hard time ("She's got one of those see-through shirts where you don't even wanna", etc....), though it's unclear as to whether the remarks represented good natured kidding, or if the two were being intentionaly cruel. For her part, Joan spoke Fondly of Nieuwirth in her memorirs (calling him "her savior" during the tour), leading one to believe it was all just kidding. I though Dylan's behavior with the journalist, owever, was pretty obnoxious. --Markt3 23:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Lol, obnoxious? What did the journalist expect him to do? Call his haircut "Arthur", say; "Hello nice Mister Man" and pull silly faces like Lennon? Lion King 09:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I retract the above statement - his behavior was obnoxious. Lion King 22:37, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dont Look Back

The original title is indeed "Dont Look Back". D.A. Pennebaker decided to spell it this way as "[he] was trying to simplify the language." Most people thought this was a typo and swiftly "corrected" it to "Don't Look Back".

I think this article should clear this point and revert the title to its original -and correct- version.

Amazing. I've looked at this title for over 30 years and I just now realized it was misspelled! I agree that this idiosyncracy should be commented on. --Jeremy Butler 12:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dylan arguing with Donovan?

When and where does that happen? Lion King 06:13, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Dylan at no stage during this movie, is seen or heard "arguing with Donovan" - have removed Lion King 09:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Where is Donovan in this film? Is he even in ti? I'm sorry, it's just been a while since I've seen it...74.60.81.248 04:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

He's the guy who alternates with Bob playing guitar in that room full of people. The background is that he played "Hey Mr. Tambourine Man," thinking it was a folk song and "up for grabs," to the amusement of Bob and his entourage, only to then be serenaded with "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue." It was more of an implied put-down, and Dylan is known not to have liked Donovan, and to have taken offense to comparisons of the two of them by the British press. 204.227.243.16 16:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)pkmilitia

What? Donovan plays (and thinks) Mr. Tambourine Man is a folk song up for grabs? when? Donovan performs "To Sing For You", and Dylan comments: "He plays just like Jack man"! Then says: "Hey, that's a great song!" Donovan then requests "Baby Blue" and Dylan performs it for him, using the double-dropped D tuning that Donovan taught him - have you seen this film? Oh, and Dylan dislikes Donovan so much, he goes on to ensure that Donovan appears at the 1966 Newport Folk Festival. Lion King 05:59, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

there is also dylan's change of lyric in one of his performances to mention donovan always being around--Mongreilf (talk) 09:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re-release info

I bought the newly released special addition today, I'll add the new featured basically verbatim of what's listed. Notahippie76 23:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

On the whole re-release section, doesn't this kind of contradict itself: "Dont Look Back has been available on DVD for several years. It was digitally-remastered and re-released on DVD February 27, 2007"

it says it's been available on DVD for years but it was released on February 27, 2007? there's no information on the original DVD release that was apparently put out years ago, if there even was one--Krakko 23:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ginger Baker

Watching the movie again, in the part where Dylan plays "Baby Blue," a guy who looks exactly like Ginger Baker is sitting behind him. I noticed the article mentions that John Mayall is in the film. Well, Ginger Baker was the drummer for John Mayall's Blues Breakers, so saying that this guy is Ginger Baker is more reasonable than saying that this is just some guy who looks exactly like Ginger Baker but isn't him. Baker is more famous than Mayall now, at least in the states and Baker is a very unique looking person, so I put his name in the article next to Mayall's.

If I am proved wrong then I will at least know for sure but honestly, saying that is not Ginger baker makes less sense than saying that it is.

The Baker assertion is verifiable in so much as anyone who looks at that guy in the film and then looks at a picture of Ginger Baker from the mid-60s will say that it is the same guy.

-David Nov 27, 2007

The time period is wrong. Mayall's drummer at the time (1965) was Hughie Flint. The guy cetainly bears a passing resemblence to Baker, but I would say having looked at the clip several times that it's not him. Educated Guest (talk) 17:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Not There

Any reason why the todd haynes film, especially the cate blanchett section, shouldn't have a line or two in the "influences on popular culture" section. several lines are taken directly from the film --Mongreilf (talk) 09:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)