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[edit] Categories

The misguided alteration of the "Prosecutors" category to "District Attorneys" caused many articles to lose accuracy. This was one of them. Donald Segretti is one of many people who had been a prosecutor but was never a District Attorney. The two are NOT the same and it is unfortunate that the person that butchered that category was ignorant of that basic fact. I have repaired that as relates to this particular article.

[edit] Rove

Reverted and placed here to await sourcing.

Segretti was a mentor to Karl Rove when the latter was nineteen. nobs 00:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1502533,00.html
http://www.prospect.org/print/V14/2/reich-r.html
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04123/308586.stm
and many others, but the Guardian is reputable.
It's also in the Karl Rove wikipedia page, fwiw. Jebba 00:41, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
None of it is sourced; particularly the Robert B. Reich article, he seems to be just cut and pasting something from elsewhere. Find a source who can be identified. nobs 00:47, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Not an exact statement on Segretti/Rove, but this John Dean (White House Counsel to Nixon) interview does place Rove as a small-fish Watergate dirty trickster (and Segretti was a big-fish Watergate trickster...): http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/03/31/dean/index1.html
There is a copy of the Salon article here as well (to avoid passes...): http://www.independent-media.tv/itemprint.cfm?fmedia_id=6694&fcategory_desc=Top%20Stories%20Ignored%20By%20U.S.%20Media
Jebba 01:27, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
It is a very interesting comment on Dean's part; however there is no Segretti-Rove link there, or for that matter a Dean-Rove link (in fact, it could be argued there actually is a denial that Rove worked for any Nixon related entity with this remark:
He is way beyond anything Nixon had at his disposal.,
obviously stating Nixon did not have him at Nixon's disposal. There may be some merit however, in an unadulterated full citation on either the Rove page or the Dean page. Unless you got some other ideas. Thanks. nobs 01:48, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Not to be pedantic, but the "he is way beyond..." quote is a comparison between what Nixon had available to him at the time and what Bush has available to him now. Remember this is a ~20 year old Rove, not the much more experienced trickster that he now is. Anyway, with Dean's quotes I was just trying to place him in the "scene" at the time. A search of the Watergate prosecutor's files for Rove would likely be interesting... I'll bring up Watergate and the Dean quote on the Talk:Karl Rove page--perhaps others know more about this.
While it does seem very likely that the "mentor" issue is true, I won't push for it to be on the page until something more solid can be located. I think I've tapped out google (which has hundreds of blog posts about this...). You got Segretti's phone number? ;) Jebba 02:10, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Take it from an old time operative, the use of an uncorroborated innuendo (especially from someone who's credibility is questionable, see Wikipedia.org, John Dean, "referred to as "master manipulator of the cover up" by the FBI", et seqt") is in itself a form of ratfucking. nobs 02:01, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Heh. Interesting. I don't doubt Dean has done & is doing his share of ratfucking... Jebba 02:10, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Well, here's the FBI FOIA Watergate file [1]; it's probably incomplete case the site says 16,000 pages. I never looked at it, but have been meaning to, maybe this would be a good excuse to parouse the file and get some idea what's there. nobs 02:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Looks like there's only 141 pages online there. The 16,000 pages are probably available only at some library (?) or by special order. Unless someone has gone through the trouble to put them online themselves... thanks :) Jebba 02:29, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
They are avaialable for a fee (Dean did say it was the FBI that asked, so it's not worth pursuing in his Congressional testimony or Special Prosecutor files). I just read the "Dirty Tricks" file, absolutely shocking, they actually manufactured false stories for the press, picketed opponents rallies, and asked embarassing questions. My God! What is this world coming to!? nobs 02:45, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disbarment

His law license was supended, but he was never disbarred: http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=39856 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lambejim (talk • contribs) 20:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Employment

It may not be significant, but it may want to be made clear that Segretti's original work, as employed by Chapin, was done for the White House and not for CRP. The only source I have to back this up right now is Jeb Magruder's autobiography, "An American Life". 129.62.81.241 (talk) 06:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)