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Dizzy Dean Baseball, Inc. has been organized as a youth baseball program for all youth regardless of sex, religion, race or color, five (5) through nineteen (19) years of age. The game is played on a baseball field suitable to the physical development of growing youngsters. The main purpose of this program is to expand Dizzy Dean Baseball, Inc. and to provide a recreation outlet for as many youth as possible with emphasis being on local league play rather than tournament play. However, state tournaments and Dizzy Dean World Series are for leagues wishing to participate. http://www.dizzydeanbbinc.org/
[edit] "Fractured, hell! The damn thing's broken."
The article currently includes the story of Dizzy being told his toe is "fractured" and responding "Fractured, hell, the damn thing's broken!". This seems like another example of Dean's colorful country-boy diction, since fractured means broken. Except it doesn't. Fractures also include lesser injuries in addition to complete breaks. So an athlete with a broken bone might well object to having it called a "fracture". That might be an attempt to minimize its severity.
What's the point of this anecdote? Does it give us any insight about Dizzy Dean? Does it belong in the article?
- If true, it's intended to illustrate Dean's supposed lack of education and/or sophistication. It reminds me of jokes like this corny one, from an early Flip Wilson routine about Christopher Columbus... Sailor: Chris, those natives are hostile. Columbus: Yeh, and they're mad, too! Baseball Bugs 06:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Controversies about his original name, and date and place of birth
We make absolutely no reference to these issues. Here's a selection of what Google has to say.
- [1] – “Dean, Jerome Herman (Dizzy Dean), 1911–74, American baseball player, b. Lucas, Ark. His name was originally Jay Hanna Dean”
- [2] – “Jerome Hanna Dean”
- [3] – “Dizzy Dean was really Jerome or Jay or Hanna or Herman, maybe that he was from Arkansas or Oklahoma or Texas -- well, you get it.”
- [4] - review of “A Colorful Cast of Characters”: “Heidenry provides us with the various explanations as to the origin of Dean's various names from Jay Hanna to Jerome Herman.”
- [5] – “Named for Jay Gould, the nineteenth-century railroad magnate, and Mark Hanna, an Ohio political figure of the same era, Dean confused sportswriters by going, at times, by “Jerome Herman,” the name of a former Lucas playmate who had died when Dean was seven. He added further confusion shortly after arriving in the major leagues by telling three reporters (in a matter of hours) three different locations and dates of his birth. Dean later explained, “I was helping the writers out…. Them ain’t lies, them’s scoops.”
- [6] – review of 2 biographies: “Two biographies, published 18 years after the death of the Hall of Fame pitcher for the St. Louis Cardinals, take pains to correct the record on some basic points -- such as Dean's disputed birth dates (was it Jan. 16, Feb. 22 or Aug. 22 in 1911?), birthplaces (Lucas, Ark., or Bond, Miss., or Holdenville, Okla.?) and given names (Jerome, Jay Hanner, Jerome Herman, Jay Hanna or just plain Jay?). “
- [7] contains some interesting information.
- [8] – “Jay Hanna (Dizzy) Dean, baseball player and sportscaster, claimed at various times that he had been born in Arkansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Missouri and that his given name was Jay Hanna and Jerome Herman. In fact, he was apparently born in Lucas, Arkansas, on January 16, 1910, the second son of Albert Monroe and Alma (Nelson) Dean.”
Given this uncertainty, how can we (a) state with apparent certainty that our version is the right one, and (b) make no reference to the existence of other theories? Regardless of what his original registered name was, we need to say something about how, when and why it was changed, and whether this was a legal name change or just a name he assumed informally (and apparently in jest). Most sources used to say he was born in 1911, so we also need something that explains why it's now generally accepted to be 1910. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
