Image talk:DivineBrownMugshot.jpg
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[edit] Replaceable
I've tagged this as replaceable, but the uploader seems to have been banned. --Tony Sidaway 06:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Hahnchen disputes that the image is replaceable, on the grounds that Photo is used to illustrate a particularly notable incident in the subject's life.
- However it illustrates only a woman with a serial number, a police mugshot. it doesn't show why the mugshot was taken, what she was charged with, or anything of much use. It does give her prisoner number and the arresting police force, but these are trivial (in the case of her number) or available more reliably from secondary sources. Thus the image's sole function is to show what she looks like, and a free alternative could be procured. This falls under example 8 of the "Examples of unacceptable use" in the Non-free content guideline. --Tony Sidaway 21:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- That's absurd. It's obvious from the picture she's in jail and she was arrested. That's why it was taken. It's a non repeatable photo. Im sure Miss Brown isn't going to pose for a mugshot photo and release it under the GFDL. To say it's replaceable is absurd. -N 01:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
The LAPD copyright their mug shots? News to me.
Thus the image's sole function is to show what she looks like - If it were a random mugshot, you'd have a point: no, actually it's a visual documentation of her arrest in this specific (and particularly well-publicized) incident. --Calton | Talk 06:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment - I made my main points in the fair use rationale. The image depicts by far the most notable incident in her life. It doesn't just show how she looked like when the incident occurred, but shows in part what the incident was about. A free picture would be a depiction of what she looks like now, that is of very very minor use in this article and has greater privacy concerns as she is no longer in the public light. (or so I take from the article) - hahnchen 19:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's possible that this image is public domain. I think that it would be better to investigate this than to use a questionable rationale for its use on the assumption that it's non-free. --Tony Sidaway 19:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Absolutely, but discussions at Template talk:Mugshot involving US mugshots have showed no sign of carving through the ambiguity before giving up. Perhaps its time to try again. - hahnchen 19:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Given the ambiguity I'll withdraw this for now. --Tony Sidaway 00:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Absolutely, but discussions at Template talk:Mugshot involving US mugshots have showed no sign of carving through the ambiguity before giving up. Perhaps its time to try again. - hahnchen 19:43, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's possible that this image is public domain. I think that it would be better to investigate this than to use a questionable rationale for its use on the assumption that it's non-free. --Tony Sidaway 19:38, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
