User talk:DiscardedDream

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[edit] Memoirs of a Geisha (film)

Hi, I see that you're new here so I just thought I'd let you know how things work in wikipedia.

First off, always try to leave an edit summary as it helps other editors understand the changes you've made and also it helps distinguish your legitimate edits from vandal edits on the recent changes list.

Secondly, if you notice that some of your changes have been reverted, rather than revert them immediately, ask why on the user's talk page or on the article's talk page. Revert wars can occur if editors disagree with eachother's edits and repeatedly change articles back to present changes that they do agree with. I sense that this situation may be one which could become a revert war, so I thought I would first discuss changes with you so that this would not be the case.

My reasons for dispute with your changes can be found in my most recent edit here. I will explain in further detail: Chiyo has racked up so much debt that Mother has taken away her opportunity to become a geisha. At this point in the film, Chiyo fully believes that she will spend her life as a maid in the okiya, like Auntie. She wants very much to become a geisha but she doesn't think it is a possiblilty hence her reasons for praying to the Gods to make it happen. If she knew that her destiny was to become a geisha, she wouldn't have need to have done this.

Aside from that particular qualm, I would like to direct you to WP:CIVIL:

"She is currently in the process of trying to get the movie's Plot/Spoiler correct, seeing as the last person left out some information."

From your user page on the 30th March 2007 here

I was slightly taken aback by your comment as it is clearly referring to me, being that you added that statement to you user page on the day after I had been the last person to edit the article. It is insulting as it infers that I have written the plot incorrectly, which is not the case. I had not left out information either; plot summaries should not be too long because it can become a copyright violation as described on the template below:

{{Plot}}

From WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE:

"Plot summaries. Wikipedia articles on works of fiction should contain real-world context and sourced analysis, offering detail on a work's achievements, impact or historical significance, not solely a summary of that work's plot. A plot summary may be appropriate as an aspect of a larger topic."

I think it is best if the plot is cut down as it is too long already, unsourced and doesn't act as an aspect of a larger topic. The template above will be useful in reducing the quantity of the plot and will promote a more succint style which will allow for sourced analysis. The film highlights the relatively unknown life of a geisha in the 1930s onwards so sourced analysis regarding this could be great.

Hopefully, everyone can work together to make this article good article status at least. If you want to respond to this message, you can catch me here at my talk page.
Seraphim Whipp 23:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)