Talk:Dissolution of the Ottoman Empire
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[edit] Uncommented reverts, weasel words, stalking
most academics" is a weasel word and so is "facing the executors" they were shot to death, not tried and then executed --Oguz1 19:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- I changed "most" to "some" per [Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Claims_of_consensus] andbut left he sentence, for now. But it should be removed per [Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary.2C_and_tertiary_sources] and the fact that it is out of context. --Oguz1 18:20, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality
Portions of this article don't seem especially neutral, particularly where the Amerneian Genocide seems to simply mention deportations and not killings. Also at the begining of the article there's comments about the Ottoman Army being corrupt. I put a citation tag there. Perhaps some can go over this article a little more completely than I can at present? Wilybadger 23:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- I have gone through about half of the article so far trying to remove non-neutrality. There was also a very obvious anti-Albanian slant in the article which I got rid of. This article, for being such an important topic, still needs a lot of work. I'm surprised it's only rated minor importance in the Turkey category, but that's neither here nor there. Candidesgarden (talk) 10:37, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite
This article needs major revision. It conveys little useful information, has poor syntax, and has terrible tone. I have flagged it for cleanup, and am currently working on a cleaner version of the entire article. There are parts where previous editors have made absolutely no sense with what seems to be frivolous information. I have commented these parts out, so someone with greater knowledge can possibly see something I may have missed. Candidesgarden (talk) 08:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
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- This article is part of a series... Not an article by itself.... There is no meaning to copy the History of Crete to this article. --TarikAkin (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- I have now rewritten the article up to "Before the War, 1914". I will get to the rest soon. Candidesgarden (talk) 09:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- This article is about "dissolution of Ottoman Empire" (between 1908-1922). There were millions of events happened this period. Not just with Greeks. Greek point of view of this (1908-1922) period is covered in Greek history. Also, if you want to give details each event the Ottoman Empire involved this article become bigger than any other article in wikipedia. You should look at size limitations at the wikipedia. That is the main reason why there is a Ottoman history series. The appropriate way to explain details is to use A SUB-article. Such as History of Crete. In your edits you rewrite Ottoman history beginning with 1700s. This is wrong, for this article, as only covers a specific period. Also You did a COPY_PASTE (This is also violation of WP:FORK) on the history regarding the Crete and Balkan Wars. The information regarding the "Ottoman Empire"s position between 1908-1922 is not only appropriate, also fits the purpose of the article. This is not a POV, as you think. The position in question is shared in WP:Summary Style. --TarikAkin (talk) 15:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
