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[edit] Consumption

What I want to know is what happens if you swallow some mentos and wash it down with coke? =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.196.225 (talk) 06:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I actually just tried that. My stomach hurts a bit, and I've been burping a lot, but I doubt that its deadly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.70.249.10 (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comment 1

good day,

I genuinely want to contribute to wikipedia. Could you please tell me what is wrong with my article so that I can change it. Is there something that you would like me to take out (or add)?

-> I don't think there's anything wrong with your article as such, just that several members must feel that it doesn't warrant its own article (perhaps the name "Mentos eruption" is not common enough) and could be instead added into the main Mentos article. --86.112.251.74 08:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks good to me! 83.88.169.167 14:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback guys (Toritaiyo 05:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC))

I would vote against merging the articles. I would argue that the phenominon is notable in and of itself, as evidenced by its appearance on numerous radio news shows, newspaper articles, as an internet meme, and even being the dedicated subject of an entire episode of Mythbusters. That sounds like something that deserves its own article to me. Granted, this one DOES need expansion... Fieari 16:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


It's been proven that you don't need as many as seven Mentos to achieve a rocket, and duct tape (or any tape at all, for that matter) is not necissarily required. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia standards, but is this something that should be corrected?

[edit] Tone and the Trivia Section

I don't think that the trivia section should be included unless there is some notable scientific reference cited. (Toritaiyo 14:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Possible topic

Could it be possible that the Mentos/Soda reaction could be a modern day interpretation of the urban legend about eating pop rocks and drinking soda at the same time, I personally think this thought warrents further investigation, maybe even a re-visit of said myth on the show, Mythbusters? What do you all think? - RVDDP2501 14:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

They did poprocks + pop on mythbusters... they took several packages of poprocks, dumped them into the pig stomache, added coke and the thing expanded to more then twice its size! This is a little off topic but I thought I'd Mentiomvhkjyghv,hjyguiygtli7gtyluhukjaby is sa good boyn it :) 130.179.39.164 22:37, 6 November 2006 (UTC) (CanadaAotS)

I know they did that one hovever since the mentos and cola have such a "violent" reaction, they could technically prove the myth. - RVDDP2501 00:13, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Jamie, from the mythbusters, kinda did this. He put a mento in his mouth and drank some diet cola and it shot out of his mouth!70.100.165.76 13:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] why diet cola?

Why? Is it because it has more Carbon Dioxide or something?

Josh215 22:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

According to the main article, it is a combination of ingredients. Aspartame (Nutrasweet) is only in diet sodas. I wonder if the same reaction would occur using Diet Coke with Splenda? Dmine45 12:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Diet cola was used by Eepybird because it doesn't leave the sticky mess that regular cola does. Prometheus-X303- 06:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Would other diet colas work? also this is fun!I am Paranoid 22:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually the original video states that diet coke is only used because it's less sticky than regular coke. And I've always used normal coke in my little tests. So could you please correct these huge mistakes in the article. It should be emphasized that it's not the diet coke and mentos that make the effect, it's any soda and mentos.

Please at least omit the word "diet" on the topic because it's the most common misunderstanding concerning this experiment. PLEASE UNDERSTAND the reaction has NOTHING to do with the ingredients of DIET soda. If you don't believe, try it for yourself. Since there are no 100% valid scientifical explanations, use empirical studies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.25.227 (talk) 10:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

It works with various carbonated drinks and candy. There is no reason to advertise these brands, for free on wikipedia. Unless of course some of the editors are working for these companies! --MacRusgail 19:55, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trimming links

I am trimming the links. We don't need so many links to videos.

  • One link to search results should do.
  • Eepybird's official site is fine, but the other sites that repost their videos are not needed.
  • The "First known documented Diet Coke and Mentos rocket" will go. It links directly to a 30Mb .avi It's no different than the YouTube videos except its massive size.
  • The "splash off" link is out of date. Event is over.

Prometheus-X303- 06:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Founder

Does anyone know who founded this? I think it might of been Kari Byron from the mythbusters but I could be wrong. 70.100.165.76 13:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

There's vandalism in the "see also" section, that I can't seem to get rid of. Anyone know of a fix?

I haven't seen that, but I did see someone posting on here that someone else is gay. I removed it. 71.15.148.187 03:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Mortari

[edit] mythbusters used a nozzle

Hhhhheeeeeyyyyy! that's cheating!

[edit] An explanation to the effect

Hi, the explanation in the article is not accurate since the eruption has nothing to do with coke or with mentos. It will happen in any soft drink that contains CO2, and any soluble stuff that you drop inside the bottle. For example you can try to put sugar or salt into a Fanta bottle. We had a long discussion in the Hebrew wikipedia and decided to omit the arabic gum explanation. The eruption happens only because of nucleation around a soluble solid. We also changed the name of the article to something like: "Eruption that follows nucleation". Melamed katz 01:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

So I guess you are saying that the nucleation sites are "amplified" by the soluble material entering solution and effectively "pushing" the CO2 out of solution? It still seems to me that the viscosity of the solution as well as the rate at which the material dissolves will effect the rate of reaction. As such the lack of sugar in the diet coke and the ingredients of the mentos are still of importance. Also, until someone cites a peer reviewed study outlining the rates of reaction for the reaction as compared to other nucleation/soluble solid pairs as well as the effect of each ingredient in various combinations then the importance of the mentos/diet coke combination must stand. jvman 04:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.12.134.134 (talk)

[edit] Alternate candies

Mentos are hard to come by in the UK, and I would imagine other countries outside of north America. Has anyone tried this with a substitute candy such as might be readily available in other countries such as the UK? If so how did it compare to the Mentos? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.1.57.92 (talk) 00:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

I tried to use skittles and starburst but it turned out really bad. Plus you can order mentos online @ their website.-March 2007

Says mythbusters: table salt also works. 24.107.103.220 15:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Mint imperials work. Neil ☎ 14:27, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mistakes

This is a pathetic article in terms of grammar, sentence structure, coherence, etc. Parts of it were clearly made by a bunch of random people each tacking on one more sentence to the article. I fixed some, but the entire article needs rearranging, and I'm really busy right now. Twilight Realm 03:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, the "science" in this article is complete bunk. Carbon dioxide is a covalently bonded molecule, it stays in solution in water because it's under pressure, not some idiocy about water holding the ions apart. 71.197.123.235 (talk) 10:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Have to agree, there certainly aren't C and O ions in solution, more like carbonic acid and carbonate. It should be fixed, but I don't know of many chemists searching for "Diet Coke and Mentos Eruption" on Wikipedia... 159.124.170.15 (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question.

Shouldn't a citation be needed for "backyard science experiment fad first demonstrated by "science guy", Steve Spangler." I looked it up on the Spangler's page but I didn't see anything verifying or even claiming the "honor". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.229.124.143 (talk) 05:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

I found out that the first person to do it was Lee Marek if you go to <TheTartan.org/2007/2/19/scitech/how> -March 2007

[edit] some info

about 3 years ago we did something like this at school, but instead we used root beer(not diet but regular) and mint live savers, It seemed to work really well. Maybe something should be added about other ways of doing the soda geyser as this reaction isn't unique to mentos and diet coke.

Use of WintOGreen LifeSavers in this type of experiemnt can generate dangerous levels of electrical discharge through Triboluminescence, so a warning to children NOT to attempt that should certainly be included in the article. The poster above is lucky to have survived to tell the tale. 129.97.79.144 18:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Ha ha ha...yeah, right. We can include such a warning when you can provide proof.

[edit] 34 feet

I just watched the episode of Mythbusters where they set the record of 34 feet. But for that one experiment, they didn't even use Mentos to achieve the 34 feet. If you'll watch it again, they used pure rock salt, and not any actual mentos to set the record. 75.66.181.245 17:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

No, they used both.
I watched it too, and they got that height when they expanded the scope to include rock salt. They did not use mentos to get that height. — Andrew Hampe Talk 00:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccurate References

The explanation of the process as a physical rather than a chemical reaction is not Steve Spangler's (or as he claims, Lee Marek's).

The final link on the page (to General Chemistry Online) is the original explanation. The page was quoted in the 2000 issue of Chemistry magazine. Spangler's page simply plagiarizes this one. 208.103.132.124 21:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old fad

This phenomenon goes back to 1989. Kids would go to the corner store, buy mentos and soda pop in the aluminum can and drop a mentos in it for fun. I'm sure this has been around as long as Mentos has. It has only recently become spread through story telling, through which chain of gossip or accidents I do not know. Johngagon 18:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd wager it's probably down to the rise of the internet and video sharing. Before the advent of sites such as YouTube and Google Video, all there was to go on was rumours in magazines and over the then-small internet community so most people would've casually dismissed it as a rumour. However, now around a billion people can directly access many verifiable sources of this reaction thanks to video sharing websites; as they rose to the spotlight, so has this phenomenon, among many others.

[edit] Mountain Dew & Smarties

I'm not sure if it's revelent to this page but, from my own testing, I learned that Mountain dew and Smarties combined resulted in the same sort of reaction but on a smaller scale Pycho237 20:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

No doubt many different brands of carbonated drinks and candy work, but that's no reason to advertise them by name. --MacRusgail 19:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin:Contradiction

This page "The experiment was popularized by Eepybird.com". Mentos page "First popularized by Lee Marek of Naperville North High School on the David Letterman show" JayKeaton 17:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Under "Variations"

Is the claim that rock salt produces the same effect as Mentos in Diet Coke "because of the ions" verifiable? Earlier in the article, under the "explanation" heading it is mentioned that rock salt proved the nucleation sites theory.Aquaman590 20:59, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Advertising

Can this article be rewritten so that it isn't free advertising for two products? It's a marketer's dream. --MacRusgail 18:54, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

These are the two brands almost always used for this experiment. Therefore, it is important to include them. --DearPrudence 23:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Free advertising is an oxymoron, the word you're looking for is publicity, which is perfectly fine because Diet Coke and Mentos are quite clearly the progenitors of this reaction (and meme). 59.101.27.92 (talk) 06:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

It seems that number seven in the "Notes" section is either down for the moment or no longer available. Also, the link under "Further Reading" leads to a subscription-only site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.99.184.248 (talk) 07:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move to Cola

I think it would be best to move this page to "Diet Cola and Mentos eruption" there is no need to use a trademark name in the title here.--Shniken1 (talk) 04:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copied from article

It is hazardous to perform this experiment on the human body. In May 2008, a Chinese university student was hospitalized after eating mentos and drinking cola. Cola was erupting out her mouth and nose. It also caused internal bleeding.[10]

I'm not sure how to question this fact, but the chance of any serious injury, or any injury past shooting cola into your eye, occuring is highly unlikely. The act of drinking the soda releases the carbon dioxide and therefore prevents the violent reaction this fact discusses from happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.166.12 (talk) 22:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)