Talk:Dieselisation
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[edit] Timeline by nation
Since the lists in the "Timeline by nation" section are time lines, wouldn't it be better to show the information chronologically instead of alphabetically? Also, would a table format be better than a list (perhaps separate columns for railroad name, first new diesel, last new steam, and dieselisation completed)? — Mmathu (talk) 07:06, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Accuracy dispute
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In contrast to dieselisation, electrification is not perceived as generally desirable in many circumstances in the industry, because it only sometimes produces savings due to the high initial capital cost of the process.
I dispute the accuracy of this. Electric railways are very common in Europe. The UK is unusual in relying so heavily on diesels. Biscuittin (talk) 13:13, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
The initial cost is still high. The difference is that Europe has a higher traffic density than most other parts of the world, and thus more extensive electrification is worthwhile. Maybe that quote is regionally biased. SpaceCaptain (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Have suggested a different wording, which also tries to suggest that the actual cash cost may not be the only relevant factor in a discussion of the desirability of diesel v. electric (a perspective commoner in Europe than the US, I suspect). The density argument is not necessarily relevant -- eg, electric propulsion is the only serious option available for very high speed trains (world diesel speed record is held by the UK's HST, at just under 150mph; French TGVs travel at a usual maximum of 186mph, and higher speeds are planned -- which would be impractical with current diesel technology). So if you want a very high speed network, electrification is very "desirable" indeed! This applies to countries with relatively less dense populations -- eg, Spain has a far higher electrified route mileage than the the much denser UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.228.6 (talk) 01:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] NZ
Weren't 4-8-4s in use until 1972 in New Zealand? SpaceCaptain (talk) 18:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Image
Maybe someone should find a more appropriate free image. I'm thinking a shot of a diesel and steam locomotive together - but in whatever country's real transition era, not with a preserved steamer. SpaceCaptain (talk) 02:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've been looking for a few years, but not found one yet. Edward (talk) 06:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rail Transport section needs attention
I've just applied some minor typing corrections in the Rail Transport section and it strikes me that it would benefit from a re-write (that is, all the text preceding the timelines, which I didn't look at). Some of the wording is rather awkward, or else in the wrong sections, and it is apparent that the text has evolved over a period through the contributions of multiple editors. (I know this is in the nature of a Wiki, but articles benefit from having a consistent 'voice'.)
I know I run the risk of attracting a {{sofixit}}, but I do not feel I have the appropriate knowledge to correct the text. Perhaps someone more familiar with the topic can take this on, and provide some of the missing references too?
