Talk:Descent of Elizabeth II from the Romans

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This is very interesting material; assuming that a reliable source is added, it should not be deleted. Viewfinder (talk) 19:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Small world isn't it !!! Good to see you. As for the sources, the information is contained inside of the Wikipedia articles on the people concerned. Isn't that enough? Mark J (talk) 19:44, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there are primary sources at Flavius Afranius Syagrius, but these cannot be verified without purchasing the publications listed. If you can find one, a web citation would be better. Some of the in-line citations have been challenged; Tonantius Ferreolus (prefect) has been tagged, and the parentage of Ranulf I of Aquitaine seems to be uncertain. Viewfinder (talk) 20:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Declaration of interest: I have used web sources to trace my own line back to Henry II of England and Eleanor of Aquitaine, see link on my user page and [1] (not linked to the rest of my site) and therefore, by implication - if you are right - Syagrius.

Longer lines of descent are claimed in Bloodline of the Holy Grail, which includes the Carolingians, but I doubt if they have been verified. Viewfinder (talk) 21:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed the problem relating to Ranulf I of Aquitaine's parentage by providing an alternative line. The one about Tonantius Ferreolus still stands, but even if that one turns out be false, the article should probably be kept as 'Descent of Elizabeth from Charlemagne', also, it's still the longest family tree in the world. Mark J (talk) 12:17, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, everyone seems to be in the wrong boat entirely on this one. Descent from Charlemagne IS NOT the longest family tree in the world. go to the article on Kung Te-cheng. he is 77 generations removed from Confucius. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calric03 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)