Talk:Demonstration (people)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

⚖
Law Portal
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.
??? This article has not yet received a quality rating on the assessment scale.
??? This article has not yet received an importance assessment on the assessment scale.

Thanks, Magnus. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.173.175 (talk • contribs)

Contents

[edit] Not necessarily an activist group

Re: "A demonstration is the public display of the common opinion of an activist group..." - many demonstrations involve members of the public, who share the opinion although they are not members of the organizing group. Or it could be organized ad hoc by people with shared interests, although not members of a pre-existing activist group. My first attempt at an improvement is: "A demonstration is the public display of the common opinion of a group of people, whether members of the public, a sector of the community, or an activist group..." Can't find wording I'm happy with, so I'll leave it to someone else to make any changes. --Singkong2005 03:34, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you on the reword, but I actually really like the way you worded it. I spliced it in verbatim. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV on demonstrations turning to violence and property damage

The section on demonstrations turning to violence and property damage (currently the last paragraph of the article intro) needs complete reworking to conform to NPOV and to represent a worldwide view.

A few examples: "Thought by some" is an unencyclopedic phrase. The part about "can turn into" would be better stated as a "some have led to" statement citing some examples (and ideally making clear that it is a extremely tiny minority of demonstrations that have resulted in such - for example, I've participated in hundreds of demos in my life and not one has led to violence, a riot, smashed windows, or anything like that.). The stuff about targetting corporations and not going after local businesses applies only to a subset (I've no idea of percentage) of violent and/or destructive actions that have occurred. Not all demonstrations are by progressive, social justice & environmentally minded, activists. etc. —GrantNeufeld 15:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

This article should be merged with Protest. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 14:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. A protest can take a very wide range of forms (letter writing, boycotts, petitions, etc.), whereas a demonstration is a very specific type of action. Additionally, a demonstration is not necessarily a protest, it can be a rally of support. —GrantNeufeld 20:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Agree with Grant Neufeld in that these two articles, while sometimes related, are not always related. SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the above (i.e. not always related). Tyrenius 20:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changed article title

Since "demenstration" is not primarily used as the word for "peaceful demonstration," the article content has been moved in full to Peaceful demonstration to clarify, and leave "demonstration" as a disambiguation page. Wipfeln 19:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Started disambig page; probably needs more entries, and also the peaceful/political demonstration stuff probably needs a better article structure. -- Akb4 06:29, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too shallow on history/forms, too deep on crowd control

This article has too little information on the history/uses and forms of demonstrations and focuses proportionally too much on corwd control, giving the impression that demonstrations are over all a bad thing. In addition it is too focussed on the phenomenon as it occurs in the US. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.101.204.98 (talk • contribs) .

Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. SchuminWeb (Talk) 07:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sectionated and rewritten some

I divided the article into sections and rewrote a lot of it. I tried to add more who-what-where-when-why-how, but I'd say it still needs tons of work. There almost certainly should be some seperate articles, and better integration with other existing articles. topics not addressed include the tradition of peaceful demonstrations and non-violent protest, major demonstrations thru history, the wto protests, etc etc. Rally probably shouldn't redirect here, since not all rallys are explicitly demonstrations. There's a very slippery definitional slope; some might say a boycott or a strike is a demonstration, while others would disagree; literally, of course, both demonstrate something. I don't think the current article title ("demonstration (people)") is very good, but can't offhand think of anything better. This is a yucky topic to address. - Akb4 23:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I admit that "Demonstration (people)" is an odd title, but it was moved off the main "Demonstration" title by someone who wanted to move the dab page there. I admit in the end that was probably a good thing. This article was briefly on "Peaceful demonstration", which just kind of grated, plus didn't take into account that some demonstrations do turn to violence, sometimes intentionally.
I do like the work done on the article. It certainly is an improvement on what we had, and it still reads well. I just did some formatting cleanup on it. SchuminWeb (Talk) 14:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)