Talk:Delta Kappa Epsilon
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Might wanna mention that another large fraternity, Sigma Chi, was created as a breakoff from DKE - Shake
The article also currently states that DKE was founded in 1844. Nathaniel Hawthorne went to Bowdoin from 1821-1824. He is also listed in DKE alumni.
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[edit] Early years
The article currently states:
"Within three years of the founding at Yale, chapters were founded at Bowdoin, Princeton University, Colby College, and Amherst College. Since that time, DKE has grown to over 64 chapters and has initiated over 85,000 members across North America."
Is there any reason 3 years is chosen for the first few chapters? It seems like an arbitary selection. Chapters were rapidly added after Yale. Tkessler 07:30, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)
- I don't really know why, but I suspect that establishing a couple of chapters in other colleges is a good indicator of whether a new fraternity will last more than a few years and that is why it's emphasized. -Lommer | talk 18:21, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It says that the vanderbilt chapter was founded in 184_, which is highly unlikly seeing as the univeristy was founded in 1873, meaing the frat would have been wating 30 years for a univeristy to be built.
Reply: Original Gamma chapter was at University of Nashville. Chartered April 19, 1847 as the first fraternity there. Inactive 1850-55 when university activities were suspended. Chapter name "Gamma" was given to Harvard in 1851 but restored to Nashville in 1855. Inactive 1861-89, but was revived at Vanderbilt University, Nashville, Tennessee, on October 16, 1889. So the Chapter has been in existence since 1847 (except for the noted intervals) although at two different schools in the same city.
I note that as of 12/30/06 Wikipedia has deleted both the modern color version of the coat of arms and also the photo of the DKE pin. Based on the editing notes this may have been done by an automated copyright bot. There should be no issue with either of these - I paid to have the jpeg version of the Crest made as International had no such artwork, and I have since distributed it to Chapters and individual Dekes without royalty or fee. The photo of the pin is in the public domain. Can anyone decipher Wikipedia's arcane copyright tagging system and restore these images to the article? Thanks! Brent Tynan Phi Alpha '76
[edit] Sigma Chi Formation
Between the opening of the school year at Miami of Ohio in 1854 and the following Christmas, seven men were initiated into the Kappa Chapter of DKE (5 sophomores and two freshman). This large class of new initiates brought an unbalancing of power within the chapter. When Whitlaw Reid (a well known journalist) was elected Erodelphian (poet), 6 men objected.
The dispute was settled by Minor Millikin, a recent graduate. The election so inflamed the six who lost that they left to form a new fraternity: Sigma Chi. The six who left were Thomas Bell (class of 1857); James Caldwell (Class of 1857); Daniel Cooper (class of 1857); Isaac Jordan (class of 1857); Benjamin Runkle (class of 1857) and Franklin Scobey (class of 1858).
The two fraternities currently sit next to each other near Miami University's campus.
[edit] Yuan Schikau?
I removed the name of Yuan Schikau from the list of famous Dekes. The only hits on Google are mirrors of the list on Wikipedia. The President of the Republic of China was Yuan Shikai, and there's no evidence he ever went to Yale. ... discospinster 02:47, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Yuan Schikau is included in the Official Literature of Delta Kappa Epsilon International as a Famous Allumni. Therefore, untill it is proven that he is NOT a Deke, we will assume the official documents are true. Canadian Caesar 06:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jeb Bush
There is no reference to Jeb Bush ever having been a Deke at the University of Texas so I removed him from the list of sitting state governors who are in DKE.
[edit] Garcia Menocal
I removed the redundant reference to Bro. Menocal which appeared in both "Other Famous Dekes" and also in "Famous Political Figures". I left him in the latter, and more important, category. Brent Tynan Phi Alpha '76
I support the change. Greetings from Delta Phi. 68.149.188.156 07:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] greek letters
dear all,
the motto in the right column says "Kerothen Philoi Aei" while in the greek text in the logo there is a letter phi instead of a theta in the first word. I'n not familiar with the topic, so someone please correct it (probably the logo is the correct one, though) Hoemaco 02:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC) hm, seems correct now. did it change or I was blind? Hoemaco (talk) 07:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] first and also oldest, reports the Department of Redundancy Department
The article currently reads, in part, "This first Chapter was denoted Phi chapter and is the only fraternity at Yale that has never gone inactive. It also holds the distinction of being the longest uninterrupted chapter of DKE.".
There is some redundancy in noting that the Phi chapter (1) is the first; (2) has never gone inactive; and (3) is the "longest uninterrupted chapter". (3) follows from (1) + (2). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.161.142 (talk) 03:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
