Talk:Deja News

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[edit] Before Deja

Wasn't DejaNews called something else before that? Damned if I can remember, but I'm pretty sure it started with an S. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 16:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You may be thinking of SIFT, aka the Stanford Netnews Filtering Service. It did offer Web-based search at some point, but was a rather different animal. When Deja started, SIFT was basically an email-based clipping service. That all died out a long time ago, reference.com (t was inreference.com before that) is more or less its successor. --iMb~Meow 16:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I dug up a little bit, InReference started doing Web-based search in 1997. [1] --iMb~Meow 17:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Not what I was thinking of. It was a service that was initially free, then I believe went partial subscription, then turned into or got bought by DejaNews. I think it had a non-relevant name (a la Yahoo). I think "Super" was part of the name. Like I said, I'm really at a loss here to come up with anything more convincing than my own shoddy memory. This would have been circa 1995. Oh well. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 19:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, it was called Deja Vu. That's french for AltaVista, and DV was the news archive of AltaVista. I don't know why the article doesn't mention this; I can't substantiate this claim right now, so I'm not changing the article. But if you know it was called Deja Vu, then you can explain why the service provided by Google is known to some as "DejaGoo" (and I've never come across the usage "DejaGoogle"). MrDemeanour 14:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Deja vu is French for Alta Vista, deja vu means "already seen" and alta vista means "high view". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.146.46.247 (talk) 16:38, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Alta is "high", not "old"? Oh.

Anyway, I have a reference link for "Dejaview", which could be what I was thinking of - IEEE Annals of Computing History.

http://www.computer.org/portal/site/annals/menuitem.8933248930f8c11dbe1fbe108bcd45f3/index.jsp?&pName=annals_level1&path=annals/articles/a3-2005&file=a3anecdotes.xml&xsl=article.xsl&

Unfortunately Deja View is now a Canadian TV channel, which kind of makes search-engine research more difficult.

I understand that DejaView may have been the name of the Deja News web-interface, which would explain me thinking that was the name of the service. MrDemeanour 17:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DEJANEWS used to called REMARQ

This I am 100% certain of. The very first web-based USENET indexing site was called REMARQ (remarq.com). The people that started DejaNews acquired remarq and its assests and renamed the site to DejaNews.com. I find it very strange that I can find almost no reference to the even existence of remarq.com anywhere in this article. In fact, its hard to find stuff about it on the web in general.

I swear to god, remarq existed ...somebody else other than me has to remember this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.182.12.162 (talk) 07:47, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deja's honoring of requests to change posts

As for the part that said: "At one point in 1998, DejaNews even honored requests to change contents or headers of posts that were already in the archive. Occasionally a person would modify posts made by an adversary by forging their Internet address onto requests to change the posts."

This is actually true. I don't know who deleted this paragraph, but Deja in 1998 definitely did honor requests to change posts, and some of them were modified by forgers. 69.61.208.42 03:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)